WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.730 Leave the camera. 00:00:00.740 --> 00:00:01.690 We don't need the camera. 00:00:02.100 --> 00:00:07.260 We could turn the camera off and just put share the yeah, sure. 00:00:07.270 --> 00:00:07.920 The show. 00:00:08.030 --> 00:00:10.010 Yeah, there it is. 00:00:10.020 --> 00:00:10.390 Sure. 00:00:10.460 --> 00:00:11.150 Look at that. 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:13.440 Can we do it like a double? 00:00:13.750 --> 00:00:16.960 Can I format that and just yeah, I would think you sorry. 00:00:16.970 --> 00:00:18.340 But each one on each. 00:00:18.770 --> 00:00:31.040 If you could put one on each page and then put 2 pages up, I think that'll look nice like make them bigger and put one on each page and then do the two pages you really want the agenda showing too, or just just the hierarchies? 00:00:31.100 --> 00:00:33.290 I don't know if these are that they're still working for us. 00:00:33.770 --> 00:00:34.570 What's that now? 00:00:34.580 --> 00:00:37.110 But are you standing up for us, too? 00:00:37.540 --> 00:00:38.440 What else do you? 00:00:38.480 --> 00:00:39.430 We're gonna have mikes. 00:00:39.440 --> 00:00:39.940 We're gonna have. 00:00:39.950 --> 00:00:41.730 We're gonna act as if they're gonna be people here. 00:00:41.740 --> 00:00:43.830 We're gonna have room, mites, room mites. 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:50.040 We do have room mites, but if are your speakers going to be right here, well, we might know. 00:00:50.050 --> 00:00:54.970 We're kind of thinking that like if people are coming, we want them to be able to just talk, to interact. 00:00:55.040 --> 00:00:55.940 Yeah, you know what? 00:00:56.070 --> 00:00:57.320 So I'll leave the room mics on. 00:00:57.330 --> 00:01:01.160 Then you know we could do all those babies right up here. 00:01:01.260 --> 00:01:02.420 I think that's what we should do too. 00:01:02.430 --> 00:01:04.440 We can just have a little we can all sit here, have. 00:01:04.450 --> 00:01:06.520 Then I'll sit here and have a link right here. 00:01:06.650 --> 00:01:09.440 I mean, these roommates are extremely hot, so they'll pick you up. 00:01:09.450 --> 00:01:11.700 I mean, but will it bounce around too? 00:01:12.470 --> 00:01:13.130 It's an empty room. 00:01:13.740 --> 00:01:14.150 Sure. 00:01:14.230 --> 00:01:18.130 Now we've got it pretty well fight you fancy stuff. 00:01:18.460 --> 00:01:20.370 Just listen to this room. 00:01:20.380 --> 00:01:21.230 It better work. 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:24.600 Yeah, I still, I still wanna move the chairs. 00:01:24.860 --> 00:01:25.520 I think we should. 00:01:26.540 --> 00:01:31.270 I think we should, but maybe we should make like a like a circle like circle. 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:33.350 Yeah, that'll seem like nice. 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:35.600 Yeah, like very good. 00:01:39.440 --> 00:01:42.570 We're welcoming this is the new DP. 00:01:44.490 --> 00:01:46.660 That's not to be confused with the old. 00:01:52.240 --> 00:01:52.620 One more. 00:01:55.260 --> 00:01:57.190 Ohh OK. 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.860 This guy's favorite game show up, I should turns around with chairs. 00:02:04.600 --> 00:02:07.820 It's like you can if you, if you're like, stumble little stumbling on your feet. 00:02:07.830 --> 00:02:09.470 You're like, stabilize yourself. Absolutely. 00:02:12.340 --> 00:02:14.040 Make it having an effect on the world. 00:02:16.640 --> 00:02:18.030 Been working on making it look better. 00:02:18.760 --> 00:02:20.230 Yeah, I'm here if you want. 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:21.690 I think we want the two page. 00:02:21.820 --> 00:02:22.490 Yeah. 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:24.230 Yeah, that's exactly what we want. 00:02:24.980 --> 00:02:30.710 And I'm gonna try to fix this and an increase the if we if we want to have that. 00:02:30.770 --> 00:02:32.620 So you can see it, we have to increase the font. 00:02:32.630 --> 00:02:35.000 Yeah, that's next step, right. 00:02:35.010 --> 00:02:36.100 You're on when you're doing it. 00:02:36.310 --> 00:02:39.840 Now all you know, we're access this little layer in here, right? 00:02:39.850 --> 00:02:41.490 If I'm going to let people in and stuff. 00:02:43.320 --> 00:02:43.500 There. 00:02:45.030 --> 00:02:47.080 Uh, that's interesting. 00:02:47.090 --> 00:02:50.700 Look at Megan screen, she says the same screen is that. 00:02:50.850 --> 00:02:53.320 Is that yeah, it's exactly the same. 00:02:53.490 --> 00:02:59.000 So when I when people enter, I'll let them come in through this. 00:03:00.580 --> 00:03:02.340 Well, I'll show you one. 00:03:03.970 --> 00:03:10.120 So on which makes me want to think that be there what we wanna do is pull that up on someone else's computer. 00:03:10.130 --> 00:03:14.480 Gently and and then share and allow me to present. 00:03:15.010 --> 00:03:16.080 Pull it up on my computer. 00:03:16.090 --> 00:03:22.740 Allow me to present and so that my computer is doing this and on your computer you can see the other screens and that's what we want to do. 00:03:24.890 --> 00:03:25.310 Alright. 00:03:29.440 --> 00:03:30.770 I'll have to go to my car again. 00:03:30.780 --> 00:03:32.680 So now if you get that all set up, we're gonna mess with that. 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.220 Uh, you've gotta you have your. 00:03:39.640 --> 00:03:40.140 Our code. 00:03:43.090 --> 00:03:46.630 So I can let people off screen, right? 00:03:46.870 --> 00:03:47.360 That would be a. 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:47.970 That be ideal. 00:03:49.600 --> 00:04:00.160 It was if I've written for gender mode like you can let me in and let me share screen I believe, and then you'll be able to do the controls and then my street presenters, right. 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:16.170 But the prob nice one. 00:04:18.650 --> 00:04:22.740 Break the all red and he will be drove my couch either. 00:04:23.310 --> 00:04:26.170 That's how many itself to the broken bricks since 4:00 AM. 00:04:26.180 --> 00:04:27.190 That's not so. 00:04:31.820 --> 00:04:34.210 Find you know because it keeps working. 00:04:34.640 --> 00:04:36.120 I wonder if some painkillers it's. 00:04:36.210 --> 00:04:38.490 I missed my mom and she was not much. 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.240 Yeah, probably not enough. 00:04:41.400 --> 00:04:44.420 Ahead considering, I mean, imagine breaking your hand. 00:04:44.460 --> 00:04:51.660 Yeah, this hand I saw, I saw that he was insignificant under. 00:04:57.970 --> 00:04:58.830 Don't forget we are doing. 00:04:59.630 --> 00:05:00.390 Don't forget what you know. 00:05:00.400 --> 00:05:05.550 Let's not get to tell Robbie password wrong password. 00:05:09.530 --> 00:05:09.800 Please. 00:05:13.590 --> 00:05:13.790 Yeah. 00:05:18.420 --> 00:05:20.510 What time do you folks officially start anyway? 00:05:20.940 --> 00:05:23.960 To to officially. 00:05:26.710 --> 00:05:28.300 And I hope somebody shows up in person. 00:05:28.310 --> 00:05:29.470 Otherwise did a lot of driving. 00:05:29.550 --> 00:05:32.480 I didn't work with so we could I. 00:05:33.090 --> 00:05:35.200 It's worth talking to totally. 00:05:37.010 --> 00:05:38.620 Great time and we have to use this. 00:05:38.630 --> 00:05:38.800 Nice. 00:05:39.150 --> 00:05:41.150 You can use this. Yeah. 00:05:41.490 --> 00:05:42.740 Yeah, I had to get him out of the park. 00:05:42.830 --> 00:05:43.850 Doesn't get too hot. 00:05:44.110 --> 00:05:44.820 It was. 00:05:44.830 --> 00:05:48.090 I was thinking that, yeah, I have chocolate chips in that thing and I didn't like. 00:05:49.830 --> 00:05:52.970 Although I will say that the perfect temperature to eat chocolate is. 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:55.940 Yeah, just trying to be a little bit melty. 00:05:56.620 --> 00:05:56.840 Hey. 00:05:56.970 --> 00:05:57.360 Huh. 00:05:57.550 --> 00:05:59.300 Yeah, working at tea tea. 00:05:59.310 --> 00:06:03.700 That doesn't too, but if you don't have tea, yes, you get more flavor. 00:06:03.710 --> 00:06:06.010 If it's not, if it's a little bit warm, it's true. 00:06:06.020 --> 00:06:09.440 You know the higher number, that was beautiful. 00:06:09.930 --> 00:06:10.480 OK, send it. 00:06:10.730 --> 00:06:11.200 Send it to me. 00:06:13.910 --> 00:06:15.170 Same enzyme? 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:15.440 That's. 00:06:15.450 --> 00:06:16.590 I'm gonna sign up for this. 00:06:19.140 --> 00:06:19.490 On it. 00:06:21.380 --> 00:06:22.470 I guess that's Internet. 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:24.060 I even get you off from the beginning. 00:06:24.070 --> 00:06:26.250 Internet. Yeah. 00:06:26.260 --> 00:06:27.010 First Yep. 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:29.830 OK. 00:06:29.840 --> 00:06:31.820 Are you are we switching to your computer for the meeting? 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:33.410 No, we're just gonna put your. 00:06:33.420 --> 00:06:34.030 We're gonna put. 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:35.650 Yeah, 100. 00:06:36.260 --> 00:06:37.630 And then so then he can. 00:06:37.640 --> 00:06:44.400 I'll use that because you need rope computer to do the because he's the controller. 00:06:44.410 --> 00:06:46.560 But you can you can share presenting with me. 00:06:46.570 --> 00:06:49.410 I can share my screen so that we can just leave that. 00:06:55.710 --> 00:06:56.050 I'm good. 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:02.250 This is different, I know. 00:07:02.340 --> 00:07:03.490 I was like having. 00:07:03.540 --> 00:07:05.370 That's why I was like, just send it to the top. 00:07:05.380 --> 00:07:06.940 So I can just see everything, yes. 00:07:19.520 --> 00:07:21.190 I didn't have a subject line, but I just need that. 00:07:38.300 --> 00:07:38.870 Need to step. 00:07:44.570 --> 00:07:44.790 Yes. 00:07:47.620 --> 00:07:48.620 I'm saying it. 00:07:48.910 --> 00:07:50.250 Did you ever get your office? 00:07:50.960 --> 00:07:55.740 You know, just asking about said, yeah. 00:07:56.140 --> 00:08:02.690 No, but my husband brought one of these, like dark chocolate, almond butter stuffed friends. 00:08:03.140 --> 00:08:03.770 Oh my God. 00:08:03.780 --> 00:08:05.170 Freddy most amazing thing. 00:08:05.180 --> 00:08:08.580 He was like test test 12121. 00:08:08.590 --> 00:08:09.850 They do this stuff to us. 00:08:12.530 --> 00:08:14.090 Umm, but peanuts because he didn't? 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:17.430 No, it's defective faulting. 00:08:17.540 --> 00:08:18.680 That's fun for sure. 00:08:20.750 --> 00:08:21.850 This one appears to be working. 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:25.490 There's mute button on top of it. 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.050 The nice thing about actually being hooked up to the room? 00:08:28.180 --> 00:08:34.670 Any audio that goes out through these mics, this mic will pass to your computer as long as you haven't selected as your mic input it in teams. 00:08:35.280 --> 00:08:36.040 OK, that's the fact. 00:08:37.170 --> 00:08:38.950 So now I gotta figure out they're trying for the meeting. 00:08:41.250 --> 00:08:41.580 Will it? 00:08:45.010 --> 00:08:46.580 It's probably in. 00:08:46.830 --> 00:08:53.230 If I go to right, I gotta go to one of the things David or sent out. Yeah. 00:08:55.450 --> 00:08:56.330 It's here. 00:08:58.850 --> 00:08:59.360 Agenda. 00:08:59.970 --> 00:09:03.570 Maybe if I just, I'm just gonna go to sent emails, right? 00:09:07.060 --> 00:09:07.640 What do you look? 00:09:07.650 --> 00:09:14.400 What that the agenda that does it come from Dave Midor the proximately state? 00:09:15.970 --> 00:09:16.440 There it is. 00:09:16.450 --> 00:09:16.750 Yeah. 00:09:16.760 --> 00:09:17.930 I mean waste plan now. 00:09:20.900 --> 00:09:21.720 English battle. 00:09:22.750 --> 00:09:23.500 What's it gonna come? 00:09:23.510 --> 00:09:24.870 But it's gonna come from like maybe. 00:09:33.610 --> 00:09:35.040 They've been stepped on. 00:09:37.590 --> 00:09:41.800 Looks like they're gonna document like there's a weird. 00:09:44.220 --> 00:09:47.420 Ohh, it does they're third page you go third page. 00:09:58.110 --> 00:09:59.630 We're gonna outnumber my Draper. 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:01.780 Right now follow this link. 00:10:08.330 --> 00:10:08.510 Yep. 00:10:14.090 --> 00:10:16.230 Been treated very well here, yes. 00:10:20.180 --> 00:10:20.980 You registered. 00:10:26.330 --> 00:10:29.730 To get the India ohh no, I just I said that. 00:10:32.670 --> 00:10:33.370 Thank you for joining. 00:10:33.530 --> 00:10:35.810 Duration has been ohh ship. 00:10:37.180 --> 00:10:39.810 But I just said I was gonna attend in person. 00:10:43.290 --> 00:10:43.670 Good job. 00:10:44.920 --> 00:10:45.890 Can I change your name? 00:10:47.400 --> 00:10:48.500 Riley got the head. 00:10:49.640 --> 00:10:50.720 You have to register again. 00:10:53.210 --> 00:10:58.400 Can't be registered, but funny, but an idiot. 00:10:59.650 --> 00:11:01.070 Will you guys cut that out? 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:06.750 Well, that's just funny things that are just so. 00:11:06.810 --> 00:11:07.810 Well, yeah. 00:11:07.820 --> 00:11:09.470 You, you, you all there. 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:10.350 Your phone went off. 00:11:10.750 --> 00:11:15.250 What I was like outside because I thought about it. 00:11:15.260 --> 00:11:17.270 I was like in person or not like. 00:11:17.280 --> 00:11:18.460 Yeah, I'm here. 00:11:18.570 --> 00:11:19.780 Yeah, I'm loving person. 00:11:24.400 --> 00:11:25.270 From Riley, are you there? 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.150 Intimate email or shoots cover trouble registering well. 00:11:29.160 --> 00:11:33.060 There were 32 people registered, not 31 when I started. 00:11:33.550 --> 00:11:34.580 Maybe she didn't understand. 00:11:35.190 --> 00:11:36.810 OK, so now you gotta let me in. 00:11:38.460 --> 00:11:41.290 So we're splitting it, Jim. Huh. 00:11:41.300 --> 00:11:42.350 They're practice letting in. 00:11:46.450 --> 00:11:51.210 Your I am admit, uh, so you can do it right there. 00:11:51.340 --> 00:11:55.050 Maybe you don't even need, but when do you? 00:11:55.060 --> 00:11:55.900 When do you wanna speak? 00:11:58.880 --> 00:11:59.060 Yeah. 00:12:01.170 --> 00:12:02.280 Maybe we want to do it this way. 00:12:02.290 --> 00:12:05.390 Just please, we have to change your. 00:12:05.860 --> 00:12:06.210 Yeah. 00:12:06.220 --> 00:12:06.970 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:12:07.180 --> 00:12:09.500 You don't you you need to talk about that. 00:12:10.380 --> 00:12:10.710 Sorry. 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:11.190 Say that again. 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.310 Sorry, you should be a different kind of. 00:12:13.510 --> 00:12:16.930 I've been watching those are in teams. 00:12:16.940 --> 00:12:17.200 Yeah. 00:12:17.210 --> 00:12:18.120 Anybody else in the show? 00:12:18.130 --> 00:12:18.860 You is joining me? 00:12:18.870 --> 00:12:21.240 Eventually we'll wanna make sure they're gonna be self. 00:12:21.560 --> 00:12:25.510 Self that yes and here they take any pictures like this. 00:12:25.780 --> 00:12:28.550 Yeah, it's more picture they do, yeah. 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:29.150 OK. 00:12:29.220 --> 00:12:29.660 Yeah. 00:12:29.670 --> 00:12:31.970 Fracture huge son of a gun. 00:12:33.220 --> 00:12:34.350 Did they give you? 00:12:34.400 --> 00:12:36.790 They can't give any advice that. Yeah. 00:12:37.680 --> 00:12:39.470 Yeah, Jim, how will come come. 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:40.210 Let's do this. 00:12:40.280 --> 00:12:42.330 Do you know what you wanna do? 00:12:42.340 --> 00:12:43.210 Is you wanna give. 00:12:43.780 --> 00:13:00.460 So couple years ago, seven years, which is a neurological, so they are calling, they think it's time to call you the thing that's very some medication married that though OK you have to contact them. 00:13:01.280 --> 00:13:04.200 I would say and also starring here, right? 00:13:04.430 --> 00:13:07.410 Now God, absolutely changing the insurance stuff. 00:13:07.520 --> 00:13:11.520 Yeah, 7 just it's pretty cool start this year. 00:13:11.790 --> 00:13:17.320 Stop sharing and then constructing United States of the ship. 00:13:17.330 --> 00:13:18.370 The four hour drive home. 00:13:19.660 --> 00:13:23.580 Well, then you hopefully they can find something to give me. 00:13:23.590 --> 00:13:25.350 That's when my yeah. 00:13:25.560 --> 00:13:28.070 You go over people's it, show you something. 00:13:28.270 --> 00:13:28.990 We have been to. 00:13:29.180 --> 00:13:29.770 I'm sorry. 00:13:29.780 --> 00:13:31.580 Here, she's in. 00:13:31.590 --> 00:13:33.050 Yeah, I want bigger question here. 00:13:33.260 --> 00:13:34.650 I don't. 00:13:35.380 --> 00:13:35.930 Yeah. 00:13:35.980 --> 00:13:36.130 Yeah. 00:13:36.310 --> 00:13:37.760 Shoot that as well. 00:13:37.770 --> 00:13:38.810 You gotta be very good. 00:13:38.980 --> 00:13:41.340 Any kind of medical thing they have, I seen it. 00:13:41.650 --> 00:13:42.910 Make sure that you had it. 00:13:43.220 --> 00:13:44.620 No, no. 00:13:44.630 --> 00:13:45.300 Well, I'm right here. 00:13:45.310 --> 00:13:46.440 Do you wanna go to settings? 00:13:46.450 --> 00:13:54.350 Make sure the mics are actually back audio in the computer that they start you drive. 00:13:55.890 --> 00:13:56.690 It's alright. 00:13:56.700 --> 00:13:57.010 Got. 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:59.180 Yeah, set. 00:14:01.010 --> 00:14:02.030 I sent Rob. 00:14:02.040 --> 00:14:03.890 Rob said I nice to meet you. 00:14:03.900 --> 00:14:05.840 Rob got fresh and really had fractured. 00:14:06.010 --> 00:14:07.640 That's what I heard walking in just now. 00:14:07.650 --> 00:14:09.020 Did they give you any ice, Prescott? 00:14:09.030 --> 00:14:10.500 'S top they give me ice. 00:14:10.810 --> 00:14:12.260 Yeah, they can't give me any. 00:14:13.340 --> 00:14:14.750 Did they go out there? 00:14:16.740 --> 00:14:18.460 So you should be setting out the room mics. 00:14:18.470 --> 00:14:24.600 Like I said in that MIC as well, should we thank you into the teams Saint Mary telling him we're touching. 00:14:26.280 --> 00:14:27.580 We're ready for some assist. 00:14:33.280 --> 00:14:33.600 Ohh. 00:14:36.640 --> 00:14:39.130 Very request to join. 00:14:39.350 --> 00:14:41.320 OK, you want married Beneski? 00:14:41.330 --> 00:14:42.080 We'll let him. 00:14:43.160 --> 00:14:43.400 Ohh. 00:14:43.410 --> 00:14:44.290 He didn't, Henry. 00:14:45.010 --> 00:14:46.100 OK, I wanna hang up. 00:14:46.110 --> 00:14:47.300 I got you, alright. 00:14:45.680 --> 00:14:47.970 You know this is, yeah. 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:53.460 So. 00:14:56.160 --> 00:14:56.740 Hope, she said. 00:14:56.750 --> 00:14:57.160 So she doesn't. 00:14:57.880 --> 00:14:58.560 What's going on? 00:15:00.780 --> 00:15:02.470 We're trying to make you a presenter. 00:15:02.570 --> 00:15:03.930 No, I'm married. 00:15:03.980 --> 00:15:05.390 We wanna make me a presenter. 00:15:09.930 --> 00:15:11.870 OK, so if you go to participants? 00:15:17.150 --> 00:15:17.550 Up top? 00:15:17.050 --> 00:15:17.760 What's your life? 00:15:18.700 --> 00:15:21.740 Yep, calling right. 00:15:20.910 --> 00:15:23.290 It should bring them up on the on the right. 00:15:24.450 --> 00:15:24.880 And here. 00:15:24.890 --> 00:15:25.200 OK. 00:15:27.530 --> 00:15:29.280 And you got this like this. 00:15:26.530 --> 00:15:33.960 Ohh yeah, click participating right and now you can pull me up as a presenter but. 00:15:33.920 --> 00:15:37.240 I mean, I can make you a presenter, but I'd rather they do a. 00:15:40.250 --> 00:15:43.060 So that was a right click on that right click. 00:15:43.070 --> 00:15:46.300 OK, now I'm a presenter. 00:15:46.470 --> 00:15:47.820 Well, I you learned something. 00:15:47.830 --> 00:15:53.090 However, now really share our first take. 00:15:53.300 --> 00:15:55.900 So where do I show you with thank you so much? 00:15:56.820 --> 00:16:00.880 Uh, it's our first click on the word. 00:16:01.770 --> 00:16:04.200 I'm I'm getting a call from the teams meeting. 00:16:04.670 --> 00:16:06.410 Not gonna entertains. 00:16:06.420 --> 00:16:08.850 You think I should but ohh sorry. 00:16:08.920 --> 00:16:09.770 No, no, no, it's OK. 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:10.830 That was me. 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:11.570 I did that. 00:16:11.730 --> 00:16:13.900 How do we get to that screen that we just had? 00:16:17.490 --> 00:16:17.690 Yeah. 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:18.460 What are we trying to? 00:16:18.500 --> 00:16:19.350 What do we wanna do now? 00:16:20.750 --> 00:16:23.850 To to where it was showing, we want to see the screen that was showing. 00:16:23.860 --> 00:16:26.230 Who's the participants and who's the presenter and stuff? 00:16:27.050 --> 00:16:27.310 OK. 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:28.710 He wants that screen. 00:16:30.170 --> 00:16:31.930 Have to get my glasses that I can tell. 00:16:31.930 --> 00:16:34.940 If you click on, if you click on mine says people. 00:16:34.950 --> 00:16:35.680 I don't remember. 00:16:35.750 --> 00:16:38.570 You say people are are participants at the top. 00:16:49.590 --> 00:16:50.760 Ohh, why is he on hold? 00:17:16.810 --> 00:17:17.530 There we go. 00:17:17.980 --> 00:17:18.740 Welcome back. 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:22.990 But one he said you were on hold. 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:23.750 I got a little nervous. 00:17:25.890 --> 00:17:27.390 You were on hold, right? 00:17:27.450 --> 00:17:28.360 I was nervous. 00:17:33.430 --> 00:17:34.440 Do you wanna have the camera on? 00:17:34.450 --> 00:17:42.650 So people can see people in the meeting or like, get an overview of the I was gonna say is I give one of these cameras point at the table to show the body comes. 00:17:42.700 --> 00:17:44.050 Don't think we'll have more than one. 00:17:44.620 --> 00:17:44.990 Here. 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:46.200 Yeah, but it did. 00:17:46.570 --> 00:17:49.050 Here, now it's easy enough. 00:17:49.090 --> 00:17:50.870 He counts as like 3 or 4, right? 00:17:51.810 --> 00:17:52.420 He does. 00:17:52.910 --> 00:17:53.480 We'll see. 00:17:53.490 --> 00:17:57.380 You see right on the on the Board of protection. 00:17:57.830 --> 00:17:58.780 No, it's not anymore. 00:17:58.830 --> 00:17:59.100 Not anymore. 00:17:59.640 --> 00:17:59.990 What do you want? 00:18:00.600 --> 00:18:00.950 Right. 00:18:01.310 --> 00:18:02.570 And you runs a. 00:18:03.830 --> 00:18:06.770 So cooperative landfill for about 10:50. 00:18:06.780 --> 00:18:08.300 We want they're ready for me to share. 00:18:08.310 --> 00:18:08.830 I can share. 00:18:10.310 --> 00:18:10.610 Alright. 00:18:10.390 --> 00:18:11.430 I'm gonna try this. 00:18:12.550 --> 00:18:13.160 Can you hear us? 00:18:13.390 --> 00:18:15.060 The window share. 00:18:16.690 --> 00:18:21.240 He doesn't flinch, shines light after Brian can hear us. 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:22.180 And we. 00:18:22.010 --> 00:18:22.600 I can hear you. 00:18:23.340 --> 00:18:24.910 Ohh OK, we can hear you too. 00:18:26.560 --> 00:18:27.060 It's pretty good. 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:30.970 Yes, sorry I'm I'm I'm also finishing up this email here. 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:32.630 OK, take your time. 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:33.570 Don't have your attention? 00:18:33.580 --> 00:18:33.990 Great. 00:18:34.220 --> 00:18:35.490 No, we don't need this attention. 00:18:36.050 --> 00:18:36.360 Ohh. 00:18:35.500 --> 00:18:36.370 We just need married. 00:18:36.740 --> 00:18:38.030 It just just shout. 00:18:38.210 --> 00:18:38.440 No. 00:18:38.040 --> 00:18:39.470 Yo, Brian, when you need me. 00:18:41.820 --> 00:18:46.220 No worry, now you get on the screen anyway. 00:18:47.280 --> 00:18:47.820 I'm wearing. 00:18:49.300 --> 00:18:50.220 They're not yet. 00:18:52.010 --> 00:18:57.160 My bathroom trying to I don't really know the broken hand this morning. 00:18:58.040 --> 00:18:58.440 What's that? 00:18:59.670 --> 00:19:04.550 Rob broke his hand this morning, then drove to freestyle with his hand broken from Scott. 00:19:04.020 --> 00:19:04.910 Oh my God. 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:06.480 Rob, how did you break your hand? 00:19:07.850 --> 00:19:21.920 Was getting ready to leave early, about four this morning and it was that just start letting Garland and I went into the shed that grabbed some supplies and big concrete piece that I didn't put in there someone else before us. 00:19:21.930 --> 00:19:24.830 And like they did, that rolled off the shelf and hit my hand. 00:19:26.250 --> 00:19:28.010 Ohh my God, how bad is it broken? 00:19:34.570 --> 00:19:34.980 Ah. 00:19:34.740 --> 00:19:35.300 Lights. 00:19:29.340 --> 00:19:40.370 Instead of the proxy just above the middle metacarpal, so I just went to the clinic and they gave me a really cool breaks better than the one he had. 00:19:44.360 --> 00:19:44.680 Ah. 00:19:40.630 --> 00:19:45.930 The the ace bandage that I had before, but they didn't want painkillers. 00:19:45.940 --> 00:19:47.810 They thought he was a little bit sketchy. 00:19:47.820 --> 00:19:48.400 Look. Yeah. 00:19:52.210 --> 00:19:54.400 He said this guy, maybe he's looking for. 00:19:54.410 --> 00:19:56.890 He just went and broke his hand to try to get some painkillers. 00:19:56.990 --> 00:19:57.920 Yeah. 00:19:58.310 --> 00:19:58.760 So I. 00:19:58.660 --> 00:19:59.330 How? 00:19:59.400 --> 00:19:59.840 Ohh. 00:20:01.190 --> 00:20:01.330 Yeah. 00:20:02.300 --> 00:20:04.360 Like, yeah, make this bigger. 00:20:05.250 --> 00:20:06.090 Why is Megan? 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:08.720 Is this A is this? 00:20:08.010 --> 00:20:11.150 Can you join with my partners? 00:20:13.430 --> 00:20:15.560 It says that I accepted your post. 00:20:17.050 --> 00:20:17.480 Should I? 00:20:17.600 --> 00:20:18.610 But I you're not in. 00:20:19.900 --> 00:20:20.350 So do I. 00:20:21.580 --> 00:20:27.990 Maybe I can't zoom because of the because of what he's trying to do inside you. 00:20:28.810 --> 00:20:30.830 Yeah, that's why are you doing that or? 00:20:31.750 --> 00:20:32.640 Yeah, you're doing that. 00:20:32.650 --> 00:20:35.780 But when I do multiple pages, I'm just gonna see what happens. 00:20:35.790 --> 00:20:37.630 Like that's OK, we're all sitting here. 00:20:38.460 --> 00:20:41.830 We're just gonna have people pull up a chair like now I can right. 00:20:41.840 --> 00:20:42.380 There you go. 00:20:42.730 --> 00:20:43.560 Very informal. 00:20:44.950 --> 00:20:47.400 It does looks like I'm reading it gets people talking. 00:20:47.450 --> 00:20:48.040 It does. 00:20:48.050 --> 00:20:49.020 It gets me talking. 00:20:49.230 --> 00:20:50.500 It doesn't make US staff. 00:20:50.510 --> 00:20:51.080 That's right. 00:20:51.090 --> 00:20:51.480 That's right. 00:20:52.630 --> 00:21:00.860 Yeah, actually like the whole agenda doesn't show on the upper left that take away much of the stuff I'm trying to remember. 00:21:00.870 --> 00:21:01.360 That's. 00:21:01.810 --> 00:21:02.100 Yeah. 00:21:03.590 --> 00:21:05.540 What are you doing later about. 00:21:05.550 --> 00:21:07.000 Yes, that's that. 00:21:07.050 --> 00:21:09.600 So now if I just can undo whatever I just did. 00:21:10.730 --> 00:21:11.090 Look. 00:21:11.070 --> 00:21:12.880 Is there a way to get her off life spin? 00:21:12.890 --> 00:21:14.620 Probably not ohk. 00:21:14.630 --> 00:21:15.250 You need to make. 00:21:15.260 --> 00:21:16.570 Why do you not see your screen? 00:21:17.290 --> 00:21:18.640 How do I get out of read mode? 00:21:19.860 --> 00:21:20.690 It's a very good question. 00:21:20.700 --> 00:21:21.450 Go back up to the view. 00:21:21.460 --> 00:21:22.050 What we're what? 00:21:22.180 --> 00:21:24.430 What it actually looks good on the phone screen. 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:25.450 I don't know what it looks like on. 00:21:28.870 --> 00:21:32.110 What was the reading really OHG I know what to do. 00:21:32.230 --> 00:21:33.300 Ohh no, don't say it. 00:21:35.010 --> 00:21:37.730 Start gradually and starting again. 00:21:38.890 --> 00:21:41.200 I just realized I have all sorts of power, Brian. 00:21:41.250 --> 00:21:42.220 I can mute you. 00:21:43.610 --> 00:21:44.850 That's right. 00:21:45.360 --> 00:21:46.020 That's right. 00:21:46.750 --> 00:21:47.440 That's a little scary. 00:21:47.210 --> 00:21:51.990 Make new make, make, make people presenters are not presenters, yeah. 00:21:52.990 --> 00:21:55.330 That's after that you're not. 00:21:56.170 --> 00:22:00.990 Hey Brian, edit dot I want it noted I still drove up here. 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.720 I didn't want the broken hand, so I should get extra credit. 00:22:04.430 --> 00:22:05.230 I don't know. 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:06.880 I think you should have just talked about it. 00:22:06.890 --> 00:22:07.600 Stayed home. 00:22:08.460 --> 00:22:09.370 Thank you. 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:10.780 Still want to the right? 00:22:13.050 --> 00:22:14.230 You get extra credit for that. 00:22:13.350 --> 00:22:16.580 Are you are you guys the only ones there right now? 00:22:17.450 --> 00:22:20.070 Yeah, it's. 00:22:20.350 --> 00:22:21.570 We didn't even bring any trash. 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:27.220 Like always, bust out that piano over there. 00:22:28.220 --> 00:22:28.810 The piano. 00:22:28.820 --> 00:22:31.150 You see that the baby crib? 00:22:31.360 --> 00:22:32.230 Or is it a full grade? 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:32.550 I don't know. 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:33.610 Who's gonna fly? 00:22:35.300 --> 00:22:35.820 Not me. 00:22:38.510 --> 00:22:38.900 Thanks. 00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:39.980 On the meeting will start till 12. 00:22:39.990 --> 00:22:41.010 Let's have some entertainment. 00:22:40.370 --> 00:22:42.260 Evidence, rob. 00:22:42.270 --> 00:22:46.320 Certainly Rob can claim the play and he's got excuse. 00:22:46.330 --> 00:22:47.320 Yeah, exactly. 00:22:46.790 --> 00:22:48.290 Maybe not with his broken hand. 00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:49.610 That's it. 00:22:49.700 --> 00:22:52.470 There's a jazz pianist, is it? 00:22:52.570 --> 00:22:53.000 No. 00:22:53.050 --> 00:22:55.090 How much jazz drunk are you? 00:22:55.390 --> 00:22:59.110 Cool, that looks pretty good, don't you think? 00:22:59.220 --> 00:23:00.910 Yeah, I like to tell me. 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:02.160 Look professional, yes. 00:23:02.900 --> 00:23:03.140 Yes. 00:23:05.570 --> 00:23:06.560 Hey, another news. 00:23:06.570 --> 00:23:08.480 Speaking of professional, another news too. 00:23:11.290 --> 00:23:11.700 Ah. 00:23:08.490 --> 00:23:12.720 Beth put up the web page for the materials management plan update. 00:23:12.730 --> 00:23:14.570 So that's all live linked, ready to go. 00:23:15.470 --> 00:23:17.220 Ohh, see you. 00:23:17.230 --> 00:23:18.040 Thank you very much. 00:23:18.050 --> 00:23:18.440 Thanks. 00:23:19.330 --> 00:23:19.980 Thank you. 00:23:20.050 --> 00:23:21.220 I think we know where to find you. 00:23:21.230 --> 00:23:24.740 We'll go to the bottom of the stairs and house goes West. 00:23:24.750 --> 00:23:25.880 90 aren't too good at high. 00:23:29.260 --> 00:23:29.510 Yeah. 00:23:29.520 --> 00:23:30.930 Just gonna not touch this, right. 00:23:30.940 --> 00:23:31.740 That's all we have. 00:23:31.840 --> 00:23:32.690 We're done with this. 00:23:33.380 --> 00:23:34.430 I'm gonna plug it in. 00:23:34.900 --> 00:23:37.610 What time I started to plug in my computer, that's good. 00:23:37.870 --> 00:23:39.060 Don't block 2. 00:23:46.300 --> 00:23:47.880 And you know how to do your job too. 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:49.950 Ohh I'm I'm warming up to it. 00:23:51.550 --> 00:23:52.740 What are you doing now? 00:23:52.870 --> 00:23:56.100 I'm listening to people's hand, and then I'm gonna choose you. 00:23:56.110 --> 00:24:02.600 You get the presenters and they have through the OR where they're from, I represent better. 00:24:07.690 --> 00:24:08.300 Ohh where's that? 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:10.120 Yeah, Jim, you also gotta remember to turn on the recording and transcription and turn it on and turn it off. 00:24:10.310 --> 00:24:11.620 Turn it off is the big thing. 00:24:11.630 --> 00:24:15.010 Beth made sure to make sure we remember to turn it off. 00:24:16.190 --> 00:24:17.460 Why we just keeps rolling? 00:24:18.650 --> 00:24:18.920 Yeah. 00:24:18.930 --> 00:24:19.520 Our otherwise yeah. 00:24:22.030 --> 00:24:22.660 That girl. 00:24:19.530 --> 00:24:24.670 If you don't turn it off at the end of the meeting before you end, you exit it just keeps going, yeah. 00:24:25.380 --> 00:24:26.250 So where did? 00:24:26.330 --> 00:24:28.740 Where aware is that turn on. 00:24:30.610 --> 00:24:31.800 There's yes. 00:24:32.190 --> 00:24:33.480 See that in the upper left? 00:24:34.430 --> 00:24:37.330 Ohh yeah, could we have a list? 00:24:37.340 --> 00:24:40.780 Does anyone have a list of our questions done done? 00:24:40.790 --> 00:24:43.840 The other thing we might want to how do we turn it on? 00:24:43.850 --> 00:24:45.120 My wants a list of our questions. 00:24:45.130 --> 00:24:46.320 Oh, look, we have a guest. 00:24:46.450 --> 00:24:47.230 Can you turn it off? 00:24:47.350 --> 00:24:47.750 Yeah. 00:24:48.370 --> 00:24:52.480 Yeah, but went to the left. 00:24:52.490 --> 00:24:53.060 You hit that? 00:24:53.070 --> 00:25:01.630 That's not how to go with that, because we are worried that we would have driven up here and nobody trusts margins downstairs. 00:25:01.670 --> 00:25:02.320 OK, good. 00:25:02.370 --> 00:25:05.050 Hey, you. 00:25:05.270 --> 00:25:07.160 But yeah, hi. 00:25:07.360 --> 00:25:08.050 Nice to see you. 00:25:08.260 --> 00:25:10.960 How are you running like 10? 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.150 How do I turn the A transcription off? 00:25:16.630 --> 00:25:17.780 Ohh, you're on mute. 00:25:18.210 --> 00:25:20.160 You, you love you. 00:25:20.530 --> 00:25:20.960 Mute. 00:25:20.510 --> 00:25:20.990 I'm muting. 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:21.210 Going. 00:25:20.970 --> 00:25:24.920 Sorry, I muted myself just at the end of meeting the same way you turned it on. 00:25:24.930 --> 00:25:25.810 Just do the same thing. 00:25:25.820 --> 00:25:26.580 Go over there and then. 00:25:28.060 --> 00:25:33.670 Oddly, oddly enough, it's it was on already. 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:37.140 Yep, it is on. 00:25:38.730 --> 00:25:39.890 So how do we turn it off? 00:25:42.560 --> 00:25:43.200 And that's all. 00:25:43.620 --> 00:25:44.410 I'm not waiting here. 00:25:44.520 --> 00:25:44.910 When you. 00:25:44.450 --> 00:25:47.680 I'm already not me shifting everything. 00:25:52.520 --> 00:25:55.210 I didn't but so. 00:25:48.130 --> 00:25:57.700 When you, when you do, when you get ready to to end the meeting, when you do, there's A and you do end meeting and it will stop the recording. 00:25:58.710 --> 00:25:59.940 Yeah, OK. 00:26:00.310 --> 00:26:03.850 And if it doesn't see these guys going on over there, is it out? 00:26:04.090 --> 00:26:05.650 There's there's four of us here. 00:26:08.800 --> 00:26:09.110 Right. 00:26:09.120 --> 00:26:12.270 How do I unmute throwing and you guys are up here? 00:26:12.280 --> 00:26:17.700 Just click this little stupid, but this is my reality and basically saying that highlight. 00:26:20.540 --> 00:26:20.970 Yeah. 00:26:22.010 --> 00:26:22.210 Yeah. 00:26:22.410 --> 00:26:24.760 No, they're trying that. 00:26:24.810 --> 00:26:25.490 I know it's. 00:26:25.900 --> 00:26:27.630 I think he's gonna use it now. 00:26:28.590 --> 00:26:29.220 Yeah, but I was. 00:26:29.230 --> 00:26:30.460 Did you read your screen? 00:26:30.470 --> 00:26:37.350 Yeah, like, but they don't really wanna like stuff that we did not wear. 00:26:37.360 --> 00:26:38.760 My steel took yes. 00:26:38.770 --> 00:26:39.090 Really. 00:26:39.100 --> 00:26:41.500 Like that you purchased that can't do. 00:26:42.120 --> 00:26:46.700 I made a mistake of learning Nice shoots to perk and that's not gonna do. 00:26:46.710 --> 00:26:50.440 I tried to clean them afterward and well, I think they're all these. 00:26:50.450 --> 00:26:51.510 I can't even do last. 00:26:51.520 --> 00:26:55.040 They're they're all OK. 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:56.280 You know that. 00:26:56.860 --> 00:26:57.150 Are you? 00:26:58.280 --> 00:26:59.680 I feel so bad, right? 00:27:00.490 --> 00:27:01.520 Tell me, how are you? 00:27:01.670 --> 00:27:02.370 I'm fine. 00:27:02.710 --> 00:27:04.650 Bad you. 00:27:04.660 --> 00:27:05.280 Where were you? 00:27:05.520 --> 00:27:05.820 On it. 00:27:05.830 --> 00:27:08.550 Didn't you slow or Matinicus really? 00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:12.030 Or where you would, what, Stonington. 00:27:12.050 --> 00:27:13.710 Would Stonington yeah, we did. 00:27:13.790 --> 00:27:15.350 Don't give your we can. 00:27:15.550 --> 00:27:18.440 You know, we need to just one picture. Yeah. 00:27:18.450 --> 00:27:20.840 And the kids road trip, huh? 00:27:20.890 --> 00:27:21.560 Yeah, road trip. 00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:25.990 OK, I just thought it comes to see what you guys finding soft. 00:27:26.180 --> 00:27:26.920 You were supposed to. 00:27:27.070 --> 00:27:27.700 You know, you gotta. 00:27:27.710 --> 00:27:29.480 I would also now you gotta come out. 00:27:29.590 --> 00:27:30.160 You get it? 00:27:30.170 --> 00:27:31.320 Come out, not just. 00:27:35.350 --> 00:27:37.220 See, I'm not gonna say. 00:27:37.230 --> 00:27:38.470 How do we get rid of this? 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:39.380 The same evening? 00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:39.740 Yeah. 00:27:39.910 --> 00:27:40.570 I'd like to see you. 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:41.070 These are the. 00:27:45.430 --> 00:27:45.910 Right here. 00:27:46.980 --> 00:27:47.570 Right there. 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:48.540 I'll be there. 00:27:49.230 --> 00:27:49.820 You married? 00:27:50.150 --> 00:27:50.610 Yeah. 00:27:50.620 --> 00:27:53.570 You know, that's kind of Frank. 00:27:53.580 --> 00:27:55.650 Can you hear me that shake your head? 00:27:55.850 --> 00:27:58.130 But that's OK. 00:27:58.140 --> 00:27:59.420 Participate in the correct. 00:27:59.690 --> 00:28:00.130 See how. 00:28:00.610 --> 00:28:02.250 Ohh, but you never. 00:28:05.540 --> 00:28:05.980 And check it. 00:28:06.660 --> 00:28:11.340 So we ohh I don't another yes. 00:28:12.250 --> 00:28:21.170 So, and I can say that for Hank, with the packaging, no people were there. 00:28:21.580 --> 00:28:23.810 Everyone 24. 00:28:23.910 --> 00:28:24.770 Then you're finishing them. 00:28:24.780 --> 00:28:25.010 People. 00:28:25.140 --> 00:28:26.430 It's early. 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.950 It said, yeah, well, it's the best thing that we had. 00:28:31.850 --> 00:28:32.010 Yes. 00:28:32.350 --> 00:28:33.690 I don't even know now. 00:28:34.270 --> 00:28:35.090 1st, it's not raining. 00:28:35.310 --> 00:28:36.330 That's too you have. 00:28:37.550 --> 00:28:41.400 OK, running I have measured the bottom. 00:28:41.410 --> 00:28:41.550 Yeah. 00:28:42.550 --> 00:28:42.750 No. 00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:45.560 So that's that's kinda Zachary. 00:28:45.630 --> 00:28:48.540 Is that that all fixed but and try to get to that. 00:28:48.550 --> 00:28:49.760 Yeah, like the mainstream. 00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.190 And I'm waiting for. 00:28:51.300 --> 00:28:55.470 Yeah, wasn't that's more about being in jail. 00:28:55.850 --> 00:28:59.820 So it's right, it just made it in the middle of the week. 00:29:00.560 --> 00:29:09.440 Work the so it is not delayed but but but they just they wanted to turn into 06 which would have been awesome. 00:29:09.770 --> 00:29:11.780 Has I also really bad? 00:29:11.820 --> 00:29:12.980 Very very I. 00:29:12.990 --> 00:29:16.800 I'm thinking about testing the you wanna trade? 00:29:17.270 --> 00:29:20.750 We, you know. Yeah, too late. 00:29:21.170 --> 00:29:22.530 Too late, too. 00:29:22.590 --> 00:29:23.660 Was gonna be here either. 00:29:23.670 --> 00:29:23.960 Yeah. 00:29:25.670 --> 00:29:31.370 Then he had the party shocking under ohh like so that took care of us pretty well. 00:29:31.620 --> 00:29:38.940 There is some like things change starting with what was your situation. 00:29:38.950 --> 00:29:40.120 Maybe this? 00:29:40.130 --> 00:29:41.010 How do we stop it? 00:29:41.100 --> 00:29:45.990 Yes, that's so my plan for this information responses. 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:51.260 So you want this worried that yes, give and you have to test that they can. 00:29:51.390 --> 00:29:53.160 Self described so having it there. 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:53.660 Yeah. 00:29:53.670 --> 00:29:56.470 Yeah, that that's your familiar with the. 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.890 See the with started this mornings. 00:29:59.980 --> 00:30:00.600 Ohh, we started. 00:30:00.700 --> 00:30:02.890 Starting so you're transcribing all this stuff? 00:30:02.970 --> 00:30:04.000 That's what I meant. 00:30:04.050 --> 00:30:06.180 You wanna stop it? Stop. 00:30:06.190 --> 00:30:07.830 It's 12 night. 00:30:08.020 --> 00:30:10.280 I would be like because really yeah. 00:30:10.390 --> 00:30:10.740 Wanna see? 00:30:10.850 --> 00:30:11.040 Right. 00:30:11.280 --> 00:30:14.440 What if you can't really transfer transcribe? 00:30:14.500 --> 00:30:15.750 I guess you probably have come. 00:30:19.580 --> 00:30:20.740 Yeah, that was great. 00:30:20.750 --> 00:30:23.380 Yes, I did say which. 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.260 Let's see something. 00:30:25.330 --> 00:30:26.920 How are you outside? 00:30:26.930 --> 00:30:29.660 Outside, they're trying to make everyone sit up here in the circle. 00:30:29.670 --> 00:30:30.360 If you don't mind. 00:30:30.370 --> 00:30:31.120 Yeah, that's fine. 00:30:31.130 --> 00:30:32.880 I just didn't know whether that's special. 00:30:33.450 --> 00:30:34.000 It is. 00:30:34.010 --> 00:30:35.300 We're all special here. 00:30:35.370 --> 00:30:36.930 You walk through the door, you're special. 00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:40.350 I know one more guys coming. 00:30:42.730 --> 00:30:42.900 Yeah. 00:30:43.730 --> 00:30:45.040 Alright, I'm learning. 00:30:45.050 --> 00:30:46.350 I know how to stop the recording. 00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:46.880 Well, I was. 00:30:47.170 --> 00:30:47.680 You're not. 00:30:48.110 --> 00:30:50.600 Let me just again, you're you're gonna just get that. 00:30:52.890 --> 00:30:53.610 How do you stop it? 00:30:54.040 --> 00:30:54.940 I think you can choose. 00:30:55.090 --> 00:30:57.030 Yeah, I didn't know. 00:30:57.040 --> 00:30:57.510 Over here. 00:30:57.520 --> 00:30:57.950 And you are? 00:30:58.100 --> 00:31:00.960 She reported this time it's your lunch. 00:31:01.030 --> 00:31:01.680 That's recording. 00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:02.970 I just had to stop drinking. 00:31:03.040 --> 00:31:04.710 That you think Jack Sky hired? 00:31:04.890 --> 00:31:07.450 It's a little bit after the first. 00:31:07.740 --> 00:31:08.850 Should I? 00:31:08.980 --> 00:31:10.140 Should I stop it now? 00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:11.940 Yeah, it's they're not. 00:31:12.150 --> 00:31:12.340 Don't. 00:31:12.600 --> 00:31:14.120 That's yeah, if you are. 00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:16.000 You're it's interesting. 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:36.550 I municipalities having issues retaining waste contractors and staff. 00:45:37.530 --> 00:45:41.060 What materials are particularly troublesome and how should they be handled? 00:45:41.490 --> 00:45:47.750 How can we move material up the waste hierarchy reducing material use and encouraging reuse? 00:45:48.230 --> 00:45:50.820 What type of funding mechanisms are envisioned? 00:45:51.490 --> 00:45:55.500 These subjects and more are what we'd like to encourage discussion and input. 00:45:56.890 --> 00:46:00.400 Providing input is not limited to the time frame of this meeting. 00:46:00.770 --> 00:46:04.380 All are invited to submit comments via the report. 00:46:04.390 --> 00:46:16.920 Updates report updates email at main Waste Plan 2024 at main.gov at any time up until September 1, 2023. 00:46:17.010 --> 00:46:23.670 That's the time will start to really evaluate what comments we've seen and draft up the plan. 00:46:24.490 --> 00:46:29.630 All comments received will be considered for drafting the update to the materials management plan. 00:46:30.780 --> 00:46:34.380 I will now hand the meeting over to our imperson moderators. 00:46:39.600 --> 00:46:40.410 Yes indeed. 00:46:42.130 --> 00:46:42.570 Thank you. 00:46:44.180 --> 00:46:44.770 Thank you, Brian. 00:46:47.060 --> 00:46:57.440 We have the agenda and we also have kind of just threw together a bunch of potential talking points, but really kind of here to listen, give one of our introductions first. 00:47:00.210 --> 00:47:02.050 That's what's to start. 00:47:03.780 --> 00:47:08.380 Elena Bertocchi, maybe P Jim Garrett? 00:47:08.470 --> 00:47:08.870 DEP. 00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.000 Maybe Megan, Mr prior. 00:47:13.010 --> 00:47:14.270 Maybe not. 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.770 Wayne Boy was consult show me. 00:47:16.780 --> 00:47:17.510 Right, casella. 00:47:19.160 --> 00:47:20.410 Uh John Blanchard. 00:47:20.420 --> 00:47:26.660 Catholic Charities Dixie Shaw, Catholic Charities and Mark Draper or Mr based solutions. 00:47:27.930 --> 00:47:33.960 Belgian regional director maybe there's feeling just drag with daily. 00:47:38.370 --> 00:47:40.060 That's it, you're all here. 00:47:42.150 --> 00:47:42.490 Charlie. 00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:54.850 OK, I actually don't have the agenda in front of you, but I will pull it up and three seconds or behind you anybody's I think, right, right. 00:47:54.860 --> 00:47:55.140 Right. 00:47:55.770 --> 00:48:02.870 Umm, so we were just gonna start with kind of unofficial open discussion and that's kind of where this comes in we've had. 00:48:04.270 --> 00:48:09.170 Topics ranging from you know what's needed to improve infrastructure. 00:48:09.180 --> 00:48:11.770 That's a big thing that we're thinking about. 00:48:12.090 --> 00:48:15.720 Obviously the the GPU for packaging program is another topic. 00:48:15.730 --> 00:48:20.460 I mean, we have separate stakeholder meetings for that, but can you guys hear me good? 00:48:20.570 --> 00:48:21.490 There's this for the computer. 00:48:24.540 --> 00:48:24.850 OK. 00:48:25.240 --> 00:48:26.290 OK, keep your head on. 00:48:26.300 --> 00:48:29.710 Interested in hearing about, you know what? 00:48:29.720 --> 00:48:31.760 What are the problem materials that you're dealing with? 00:48:31.770 --> 00:48:36.990 Like you're you're with Catholic charities, so you have a lot to do with they recycle, recycle. Recycle. 00:48:37.040 --> 00:48:37.770 Yeah. 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:39.800 So we just came because we recycle. 00:48:41.240 --> 00:48:41.970 Excellent. 00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:42.360 Thank you. 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:42.820 Tell me. 00:48:42.930 --> 00:48:48.880 So now comes like I've heard from other and it is like that you're. 00:48:49.900 --> 00:48:51.170 So we are not have garbage. 00:48:51.470 --> 00:49:00.050 It's only something roll off every well, probably two to three roll offs a month because people tend to think they're garbage, is good stuff, yeah. 00:49:01.240 --> 00:49:01.920 The bed now. 00:49:01.970 --> 00:49:02.520 So that's a. 00:49:02.590 --> 00:49:16.780 Problem and it's a very expensive at this point in time, but I basically came and get involved with different things because we we are the only large scale textile recycling business in the county. 00:49:17.350 --> 00:49:21.160 I'm not sure if we if they even have one in Bangor at this point, but we're big. 00:49:21.270 --> 00:49:31.710 We shipped £44,000 of mixed rags and shoes every four to six weeks and we've been doing that for about 10 years. 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:34.000 Yes, there's no end to it. 00:49:34.010 --> 00:49:36.480 So all of that would have ended up in landfills only. 00:49:36.650 --> 00:49:52.430 We also operate four thrift stores and in those thrift stores there is furniture and other items that would have probably landed in landfills should there not be a place to put them in, recycle them and we recycle cardboard and we did recycle metal until our metal man died. 00:49:55.310 --> 00:49:57.100 So that would be a need for sure. 00:49:57.230 --> 00:50:13.640 So you can't just like we do recycle metal, but we we don't have a place to at this point like we my main warehouse is in Monticello and there used to be a metal man in Monticello, Eric, who passed away and his wife didn't wanna do it too long. 00:50:13.890 --> 00:50:19.960 So right now I don't know of any place to recycle metal other than Caribou, and I don't wanna have to lug it part of Caribou and they're not nice. 00:50:20.110 --> 00:50:25.140 Somebody here from there because you're not noticing, not talk to. 00:50:25.150 --> 00:50:25.550 That's fine. 00:50:26.370 --> 00:50:29.050 No, I would add the guys down by the river. 00:50:29.540 --> 00:50:30.480 I yeah. 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:39.510 Obviously had electronics or the we get a lot of like monitors, TV and things like that and they're just piling up because it's hard to find a place to put them. 00:50:39.620 --> 00:50:39.790 Yeah. 00:50:41.300 --> 00:50:41.430 Yeah. 00:50:43.490 --> 00:50:53.020 So the metal you think so aim is the only game in town, and they're hard to deal with for we're again located in Ohh we have some stores and Caribou. 00:50:53.110 --> 00:50:54.270 Prescott, honest. 00:50:54.280 --> 00:51:02.010 Hello and we it was easy when it was in Monticello cause he was just down the hill and it didn't cost us to transport and camp. 00:51:02.070 --> 00:51:13.120 It was just basically load up the truck when it's floor that they tubs we had take you down the hill to get a check but once that's closed we haven't found another place handy dandy that we could do that with. 00:51:13.130 --> 00:51:16.560 So we just, I don't even what we were doing with it piling up. 00:51:19.610 --> 00:51:20.270 We take it? 00:51:21.830 --> 00:51:24.560 Yeah, it's not that we don't want driving directions. 00:51:24.570 --> 00:51:25.160 Street. 00:51:25.350 --> 00:51:39.650 Yeah, we're trying to like a lot, but enough to just because we are bleeding everything we can to raise funds to feedbooks be run a food bank, not a recycling center, we recycle. 00:51:39.660 --> 00:51:44.100 So we can feed folks, we run stores so we can feed folks, but it's been a win win. 00:51:45.100 --> 00:52:16.900 In a lot of ways, especially with landfills and whatnot, because I I submit reports to try community and to press scale solid waste over the years of roughly well, it's easy to calculate how many pounds of clothes we recycled on your thinking £44,000 every time a truck or out of my yard times every six weeks to every month 12 * 8 to 10 * a year, plus over the last eight to 10 years. 00:52:17.290 --> 00:52:22.550 That's a lot of stuff, and it shipped to other countries, so it's no longer your prop. 00:52:23.850 --> 00:52:24.330 Do you know? 00:52:24.340 --> 00:52:25.380 Do you know where it goes at all? 00:52:25.390 --> 00:52:26.940 Yes, we ship it. 00:52:26.950 --> 00:52:29.160 Typically, we have two buyers or working with right now. 00:52:29.170 --> 00:52:40.640 I've worked with many buyers over the years, but the two buyers I worked with right now are out of Toronto and they ship it overseas so it's not used for rags. 00:52:40.650 --> 00:52:41.480 Will be they. 00:52:41.490 --> 00:52:42.120 They sort of. 00:52:42.270 --> 00:52:42.800 They sorted. 00:52:42.810 --> 00:52:43.540 They sort it. 00:52:43.550 --> 00:52:48.760 I mean it depending on they know me well enough now or us because they worked with us for so many years. 00:52:48.890 --> 00:52:51.160 They know what our quality is, they know what we're sending them. 00:52:51.170 --> 00:52:52.500 It's pretty much just consistent. 00:52:53.090 --> 00:52:58.960 Umm, so I'm sure they may just have buyers that buy our stuff because they know what it is. But. 00:52:59.870 --> 00:53:03.080 It it we, we are not picky about what we take. 00:53:03.170 --> 00:53:04.880 It can be ripped, torn or stained. 00:53:05.290 --> 00:53:13.460 It's because some of it is recycled into various products, but it's not thrown away and that's a lot of weight. 00:53:13.470 --> 00:53:15.910 And that's a lot of stuff over 10 year period. 00:53:19.620 --> 00:53:20.290 Go to Canon. 00:53:20.300 --> 00:53:21.300 Not good enough for him, huh? 00:53:25.040 --> 00:53:27.240 I have ties with camera, yeah. 00:53:29.980 --> 00:53:30.420 I'll have. 00:53:30.580 --> 00:53:33.170 Well, actually I think about three quarter Canadian if that pawn. 00:53:35.160 --> 00:53:35.590 Possible. 00:53:41.180 --> 00:53:43.410 And electronics? 00:53:43.420 --> 00:53:45.180 You said, yeah. Yeah. 00:53:45.190 --> 00:53:49.480 You know, we we try not to take them away. 00:53:49.490 --> 00:53:55.910 Frankly, they they appear they they appear, you know, it's kind of a cost of doing business when you're running through stores, you get some stuff sometimes. 00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:02.430 But yeah, I mean especially like right now, the big babies, let's just got kind of washed out. 00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:04.090 We're getting more flat screens now. 00:54:04.100 --> 00:54:04.460 Thanks. 00:54:04.470 --> 00:54:04.930 Thanks. 00:54:05.090 --> 00:54:05.460 Bye. 00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:06.890 Yeah. 00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:13.600 Because and when the when the whole black screen thing came out, we were getting barring with those big old TV's just bombarded. 00:54:13.610 --> 00:54:14.090 They were. 00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:21.820 They were scrapped up everywhere and it usually on the weekends and like they're not there, but we used to work with Bruce. 00:54:22.140 --> 00:54:33.410 I don't think I'm in Hamden wherever he was and when he got done and we haven't had another one come in, but that was nice because the first time first came up here and we actually did a fundraiser, which was great. 00:54:33.940 --> 00:54:42.020 So we just asked people to bring their stuff by and give us a donation and we raise like $1800 because they came by that particular day and he took it away. 00:54:42.030 --> 00:54:48.780 So that was wonderful, but the last person that for people that did that was a Catholic Church report can't did something like that. 00:54:49.120 --> 00:54:50.180 I don't know what's going on with that. 00:54:50.830 --> 00:54:52.100 Yeah, first retired. 00:54:52.230 --> 00:54:53.980 I know it's actually, yeah. 00:54:53.990 --> 00:55:05.760 So and the other guy that I contacted wanted me to guarantee him so much below wanted me to pay mileage for him to come up and go back and put up two men in a hotel for whatever time it took the fellow trailer. 00:55:06.170 --> 00:55:12.230 So like that was not so that that was that's the only that was Bruce. 00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:14.530 Business name Megan electronics. 00:55:15.410 --> 00:55:18.860 There are other few weeks consolidators would they so. 00:55:18.910 --> 00:55:21.420 So there's there's two groups. 00:55:21.430 --> 00:55:31.090 Sheets we give the one day collection events right which people use your fundraisers, which are nice between labor and I think we're in the scene like, OK, everyone here. 00:55:31.100 --> 00:55:31.690 Yeah, right. 00:55:32.490 --> 00:55:34.070 Yes, that's probably the thumbs up. 00:55:35.810 --> 00:55:42.460 Yes, they so between labor and mostly labor costs. 00:55:42.470 --> 00:55:47.550 And then the fact that our you've got it an issue where we have a a price cap. 00:55:48.620 --> 00:55:54.750 So the reason they can take it for free because manufacturers pay for it, but there's a price cap on what manufacturers pay. 00:55:55.270 --> 00:55:56.650 That needs to be adjusted. 00:55:56.660 --> 00:56:00.870 It's too low now between increases in labor costs and everything else. 00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:04.430 So it's they're working on really small margins. 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:14.670 So no one's really doing those one day events anymore, but they can do is pick up what you've got on site, you know, so North Coast is already coming up. 00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.460 You guys, you North Coast. 00:56:16.580 --> 00:56:16.860 Yeah. 00:56:16.870 --> 00:56:25.990 So he's already going up WS and probably a few other places and picking up and he's got his truck and he's just making a sweep, right? 00:56:26.230 --> 00:56:26.570 All right. 00:56:26.580 --> 00:56:28.070 By our bonus all warehouses. 00:56:28.200 --> 00:56:31.810 On route so that would just be a matter of figuring that out. 00:56:31.900 --> 00:56:33.960 I mean, we don't care if we get money out of it. Lost. 00:56:34.140 --> 00:56:35.220 Gone. This. 00:56:35.230 --> 00:56:35.590 Yeah. 00:56:35.600 --> 00:56:37.880 Yeah, that stuff we're gonna say we have. 00:56:38.050 --> 00:56:39.720 You have a place to store. 00:56:39.730 --> 00:56:40.660 How do you store it? 00:56:40.670 --> 00:56:41.330 We have warehouses. 00:56:43.280 --> 00:57:05.730 Let me put it usually in like watermelon toads, which is kind of how Bruce used to do it in the big or like yeah that we typically use watermelon toast cause that's we have access to occasions we keep them inside for most part yeah they get they should be good but we could do that would just have to connect on that I could do that through mark he's keep inventory. 00:57:05.790 --> 00:57:06.360 Yeah, right. 00:57:06.370 --> 00:57:13.060 Yeah, we can be in touch definitely about your signed up, I guess on somewhere we have your email. 00:57:14.620 --> 00:57:16.250 Umm, but yeah, that's what you want to do. 00:57:16.260 --> 00:57:18.460 Is just get set up as a regular collection location. 00:57:19.130 --> 00:57:19.630 Umm. 00:57:19.860 --> 00:57:23.000 And then yeah, sometimes you. 00:57:23.140 --> 00:57:26.530 So that's yeah. Yeah. Who does? 00:57:27.110 --> 00:57:27.970 Changing teams. 00:57:29.010 --> 00:57:30.560 Yes, I think you're supposed to. 00:57:30.570 --> 00:57:31.890 Anybody at most only one. 00:57:31.900 --> 00:57:37.510 Everybody else, I think the only one on this is just dealing with one game in town. 00:57:37.520 --> 00:57:37.740 What's? 00:57:37.940 --> 00:57:38.180 Yeah. 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:39.470 Really. 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:43.350 Yeah, Billy actors, I think it's the only game in town. 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:44.450 That thing period? 00:57:44.500 --> 00:57:45.690 Pretty much, yeah. 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:49.430 Yeah, it's not the only, but he does about 9095. 00:57:49.610 --> 00:57:52.510 Yeah, that will be helpful. 00:57:52.520 --> 00:57:53.310 That's good to know. 00:57:53.700 --> 00:57:54.010 Yeah. 00:57:54.020 --> 00:57:55.930 So we can take care of that pretty easily. 00:57:55.940 --> 00:57:56.370 It's not. 00:57:56.460 --> 00:57:58.010 It's not all kinds of like tronics. 00:57:58.020 --> 00:58:02.180 It's not like not like hair dryers and that sort of stuff. 00:58:02.460 --> 00:58:06.580 At least you can take those, but there'll be a small charge for them, like. 00:58:06.950 --> 00:58:08.220 Does he charge for personals? 00:58:09.090 --> 00:58:11.810 Yeah, generally believe he doesn't know for about his. 00:58:12.250 --> 00:58:12.550 Yeah. 00:58:13.990 --> 00:58:14.190 Keep. 00:58:14.190 --> 00:58:19.080 But he does have a feed for transport that's in charge of transportation. 00:58:19.630 --> 00:58:19.870 Minimal. 00:58:21.010 --> 00:58:23.570 So each place he stops has to pay a little something so. 00:58:26.890 --> 00:58:29.040 Probably sweetie shooting. 00:58:30.430 --> 00:58:34.630 I'm afraid you should go on the past week, talking days might be playing. 00:58:35.300 --> 00:58:36.970 I need some good old one. 00:58:37.690 --> 00:58:38.780 You can talk to Philly. 00:58:39.470 --> 00:58:40.570 Billy's been working with us. Thousand. 00:58:42.470 --> 00:58:42.850 Thousand. 00:58:42.980 --> 00:58:44.470 Yeah, 20 something years. 00:58:44.940 --> 00:58:47.000 You've been around all time? Yep. 00:58:51.650 --> 00:58:53.940 No, we're talking about hard, hard to manage things. 00:58:53.950 --> 00:59:02.300 One thing I had on my list and everyone throwing and say it's bad the it's the chargeable beds. 00:59:03.770 --> 00:59:05.280 I think there's gonna nod and go. 00:59:05.290 --> 00:59:05.740 Yup. 00:59:05.790 --> 00:59:06.000 Wait. 00:59:06.010 --> 00:59:15.320 And I talked about it, you know, from the standpoint, not so much from a waste reduction standpoint or anything like that, but it's strictly fires. 00:59:15.530 --> 00:59:16.620 Yeah, it's fires. 00:59:16.630 --> 00:59:17.600 It's landfills. 00:59:17.610 --> 00:59:23.700 We're seeing it like when centers are seeing it transfer station to seeing it, garbage haulers are seeing it. 00:59:25.490 --> 00:59:32.170 We and we participate with call to recycle, but in Aroostook County there's our two facilities and loads. 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:34.140 That's it, and nobody knows it. 00:59:35.020 --> 00:59:40.090 It people will deliver their trash to us on Saturday mornings. 00:59:40.720 --> 00:59:46.810 They know that the ones hiring the haulers don't know, and if we say, you know, don't you know? 00:59:46.820 --> 00:59:48.050 Don't put that in the trash. 00:59:48.060 --> 00:59:50.750 The next question logically is what do you want me to do with it? 00:59:51.120 --> 00:59:58.830 Well, you could take it down to Lowes or you could take it to us and for Fairfield or out to the press Guy Landfill 3 miles on a dirt road. 00:59:58.840 --> 00:59:59.630 And I'm gonna go. 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:00.750 OK. 01:00:01.130 --> 01:00:03.120 Yeah, in the tragic go. 01:00:03.130 --> 01:00:07.490 So somehow we need more convenient. 01:00:08.390 --> 01:00:16.010 We're well known drop off locations and discussions I've had up here on the logical, logical connection would be fired to me. 01:00:16.060 --> 01:00:17.740 Fire stations, fire departments. 01:00:17.950 --> 01:00:21.880 They're well trained and they're the ones that we're calling, but we have fires. 01:00:21.890 --> 01:00:27.320 So I do know that our the Presquile Fire Chief is gonna carry that to the main fire chiefs. 01:00:27.330 --> 01:00:31.970 Sociation maybe some so it should hit the news a little bit. 01:00:32.020 --> 01:00:35.070 I mean, part of it's the people that just aren't aware, but just don't know. 01:00:35.140 --> 01:00:35.630 Yeah, right. 01:00:36.100 --> 01:00:50.070 You got to have a convenient free option to get rid of them, and it seems like we could work on that locally, but it seems like it's something in this plan, something that could be elevated with some state level leadership. 01:00:50.420 --> 01:00:51.670 Be very helpful. 01:00:53.090 --> 01:00:54.100 They're not going away. 01:00:54.190 --> 01:00:55.430 No, there's not going. 01:00:56.160 --> 01:01:07.910 The other thing I want to mention about that the other hand off, but I almost attached to the meeting invite, is that for the municipal sites that participate in program, they can add regular batteries and just charge a small fee for those. 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.850 So they could take the, you know, take the lithium for sure. 01:01:11.080 --> 01:01:16.050 But they can also add primary batteries, and that's something that the retail sites can't do through the program. 01:01:16.060 --> 01:01:26.760 It's only for the for the municipal site, so that's something that I think would be good to include in any kind of education because we're trying to get more sites to do that because we get so many calls about that. 01:01:26.930 --> 01:01:39.120 There is, I don't know if you guys do, I get lot about batteries and people just don't wanna put them trash and they're probably those same people that are willing to find a phone number called the easy or probably willing to pay a couple of pennies to recycle their battery. 01:01:39.850 --> 01:01:40.780 We did apply. 01:01:40.790 --> 01:01:42.900 This is later in the agenda, but I'll just mention it too. 01:01:42.910 --> 01:01:52.090 We did apply for federal funding through pH to do education outreach and included batteries in our app, but I don't know if we're going to get the funding for that quite yet. 01:01:52.150 --> 01:01:55.280 I looked at that EPA grant at the minimum of 250. 01:01:55.290 --> 01:01:55.490 It was. 01:01:56.220 --> 01:02:01.010 I could I could find the wonderful TV station for 9 years with that kind of thing. 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:02.260 You know, we'll spend it. 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:02.810 Yeah. 01:02:02.820 --> 01:02:03.190 Yes. 01:02:03.200 --> 01:02:07.630 Yeah, you got you guys could you know right that would be a big thing. 01:02:07.640 --> 01:02:11.690 But also trying to get anymore and you need more places to sign up for the forward. 01:02:11.780 --> 01:02:12.550 Yeah. 01:02:12.680 --> 01:02:15.160 And they can just do the free one if they want to, just do the free one. 01:02:15.170 --> 01:02:19.910 But that's The thing is like just getting more municipal sites of where the they can do the program. 01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:29.740 And I agree the fire stations are so Megan municipal sites that account the timer station, transportation, transfer station. 01:02:30.230 --> 01:02:31.760 But Fire station is a good idea. 01:02:31.770 --> 01:02:31.920 Yeah. 01:02:31.930 --> 01:02:43.280 The bottom or 24/7 365 they're mean, but they're well trained and again they have a vested interest in so and they gonna follow through on the safety. 01:02:43.590 --> 01:02:44.300 Exactly. 01:02:44.550 --> 01:02:46.150 Yeah, it's nothing new for them too. 01:02:48.780 --> 01:02:54.220 Long term, it would be, it would be cost savings if they don't have to quote for what quite a fire. 01:02:54.810 --> 01:02:55.360 Yeah. 01:02:56.010 --> 01:02:57.720 What size mattress are you still there? 01:02:57.730 --> 01:03:03.000 We see we so when we have a fire a lot of times we can't tell what started. 01:03:03.010 --> 01:03:04.470 But last year I know two. 01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.340 For example, for sure we found were started by firing. 01:03:07.350 --> 01:03:08.260 What was the cell phone? 01:03:08.450 --> 01:03:15.920 Was a left, but we thought we see bunch of the cordless tool. Battery drills. 01:03:16.550 --> 01:03:17.210 Like, what's that? 01:03:17.220 --> 01:03:26.480 We know last year that we could talk literally started fires, cell phone, our range be getting vaping batteries about chance. 01:03:26.490 --> 01:03:26.580 Yeah. 01:03:27.980 --> 01:03:30.480 And probably I'm sure I have no. 01:03:30.550 --> 01:03:31.910 Yeah, I'm sure we are. 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:34.540 But by the not there been concerned, I don't. 01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:38.120 Right. 01:03:38.130 --> 01:03:40.240 So then those cells on the laptops also could have gone. 01:03:41.220 --> 01:03:43.870 I was gonna say one of those are covered by existing programs. 01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:48.290 We will take them as we do, but most but usually don't bring their trash to. 01:03:48.300 --> 01:03:53.130 Yeah, most people are hiring to home to do and so for them to sit tight, they call me up. 01:03:53.140 --> 01:03:54.380 Said yeah, bring it out. 01:03:54.520 --> 01:03:59.370 You know 8 miles on your day off to get rid of a cell phone. 01:03:59.860 --> 01:04:04.850 So I will post are gonna go down four. 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:06.300 Yeah, I wouldn't know. 01:04:08.630 --> 01:04:09.260 So. 01:04:09.340 --> 01:04:16.150 It's so that's where like they could go on a Sunday afternoon down to the fire station and drop this thing off and be done. 01:04:16.210 --> 01:04:18.720 That would be, I think that would be the right beautiful. 01:04:20.020 --> 01:04:30.430 The other thing that they found is that if you collect it, if the fire stations were willing to pay that extra to get the if you collect all batteries. 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:32.180 Sometimes people are like, what do you mean? 01:04:32.190 --> 01:04:37.650 You take some batteries and that's like a really that gets confusing and difficult, and that's enough. 01:04:37.660 --> 01:04:47.920 That's there's your conveniences at the window versus like if if you've got a place where you can take all your batteries and you don't have to worry about what type it is and all of that, that helps a lot. 01:04:47.930 --> 01:04:54.400 So I don't know if is there ohh can away you could get us in touch with that Fire Chief. 01:04:54.410 --> 01:05:01.660 That's interested so that we could maybe we can get because that's a cause that should that's a perfect place for them to go all over the state. 01:05:01.670 --> 01:05:02.140 Really. 01:05:02.210 --> 01:05:03.590 Yeah, everyone is smart. 01:05:03.600 --> 01:05:04.220 So you was? 01:05:04.390 --> 01:05:06.820 Yeah, you know that? 01:05:07.170 --> 01:05:08.610 Yeah, that the it's not there. 01:05:08.660 --> 01:05:10.050 They're away, the Fire Chief. 01:05:10.060 --> 01:05:12.490 Forget I'll ask you for it. Yep. 01:05:16.260 --> 01:05:16.650 Transfer. 01:05:16.790 --> 01:05:17.480 Good afternoon. 01:05:18.020 --> 01:05:18.450 It's Russia. 01:05:18.460 --> 01:05:20.220 Transcript what's that? 01:05:20.350 --> 01:05:21.490 Yes, and this is for you have. 01:05:22.250 --> 01:05:22.700 Yeah. 01:05:22.720 --> 01:05:24.300 We'll be lucky if we can read it, yeah. 01:05:25.850 --> 01:05:26.600 It's really funny. 01:05:26.820 --> 01:05:27.040 You're. 01:05:28.050 --> 01:05:29.080 Yeah, that. 01:05:32.220 --> 01:05:34.600 I think the best place where to. 01:05:34.940 --> 01:05:37.940 Yes, I know you this idea. 01:05:39.090 --> 01:05:46.910 If I memory just as every day, so when most people using private dollars that's affecting all your recycle. Probably. 01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:47.700 Yeah, yeah. 01:05:47.790 --> 01:05:54.480 Isn't any of those private holders do anything such craft problems the larger ones? 01:05:54.490 --> 01:05:59.410 With the current, we encourage himself. Commercial house. 01:05:59.710 --> 01:06:01.090 We have what we want. 01:06:01.150 --> 01:06:09.110 So yeah, that means that all the there's the right the rest of the recycling stuff it's it's drop off. 01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:12.670 So you have to make the one of our languages from the broad level. 01:06:13.140 --> 01:06:38.430 One of our problem here, you know we used to when I took over Midcoast Rockport, they didn't had a hefty licensing fee for callers and I did away with it and told them all if you would accommodate recycling full spectrum of what we handle no fee, no license and big difference, then all geared up. 01:06:39.520 --> 01:06:46.420 Not that they all carried a lot, but they all geared up to, like, give up space to say that they do that to split their time. 01:06:46.980 --> 01:06:48.650 What the components on the sides? 01:06:48.660 --> 01:06:51.350 Yeah, very ingenious little methods. 01:06:51.810 --> 01:06:54.340 There's some fine with the but it helps. 01:06:58.600 --> 01:07:00.320 But we haven't even turned it was charging. 01:07:04.980 --> 01:07:06.770 Your Dropbox, where do you try to locate them? 01:07:08.210 --> 01:07:09.220 You have everywhere we got. 01:07:09.230 --> 01:07:15.260 So what I have 20 of them, I think around public works garages anywhere. 01:07:15.270 --> 01:07:17.760 We begin our probably something stores. 01:07:18.250 --> 01:07:24.980 You just try to call, locate them with redemption centers because they would be convenient someone taking their cans and bottles back and drop off recyclables. 01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:31.230 Have some city of town offices for each for scale. 01:07:31.240 --> 01:07:33.330 I think they're town office, city office. 01:07:34.510 --> 01:07:37.980 I have cat Taylor who had their hand up something to make her presenter. 01:07:46.050 --> 01:07:46.650 Can you hear me? 01:07:46.700 --> 01:07:47.050 Can you? 01:07:45.970 --> 01:07:48.390 Yes, yet. 01:07:47.060 --> 01:07:50.890 OK, I never use Microsoft Teams on a zoom lady. 01:07:50.900 --> 01:07:58.870 So umm, I couldn't understand sometimes cause your microphones kind of echoey and there's some cross talk. 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:10.610 So I don't know if you knew about the call to recycle program that is a federal program which allows you to send for a kit and you mentioned lows. 01:08:10.620 --> 01:08:16.170 I don't know if you guys have a Home Depot up there or not, but they will also take rechargeable tool batteries. 01:08:16.780 --> 01:08:25.780 They won't take alkaline batteries, but they will take just about any rechargeable battery as well as compact fluorescent and any other Mercury laden light bulbs. 01:08:25.790 --> 01:08:31.380 And in their store, also staples and Best Buy will take digital equipment. 01:08:31.490 --> 01:08:39.230 You just have to check with the manager ahead of time that they do recycle any electronics that are obsolete, if that helps. 01:08:38.870 --> 01:08:40.830 And it does. 01:08:41.120 --> 01:08:41.310 No. 01:08:42.360 --> 01:08:42.510 Yeah. 01:08:42.180 --> 01:08:42.580 OK. 01:08:43.420 --> 01:08:43.640 Here. 01:08:43.970 --> 01:08:45.230 Well, it's located. 01:08:45.420 --> 01:08:47.310 If you're done, the cat, would you put your hand down? 01:08:48.170 --> 01:08:49.450 Ohh Yep, I will thank you. 01:08:49.770 --> 01:08:50.170 Thank you. 01:08:54.750 --> 01:08:57.700 Yeah, curiosity for the recycling drop off. 01:08:57.710 --> 01:09:04.680 So you guys can take #2 paper cardboard, so it's clear and colored #2. 01:09:04.790 --> 01:09:09.200 Yep, newspaper magazines, Jenkins. 01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:22.740 Some of our locations have cardboard, but most of the time and then if people want to hire private haulers, they can have their recycling brought to Presque Isle or or. 01:09:22.750 --> 01:09:26.220 No, all the only thing the haulers will deliver is card. 01:09:27.630 --> 01:09:31.160 Also, that is from nurses, sources, stores. 01:09:33.630 --> 01:09:41.600 He's made up a revenue sharing program where we will return 50% of revenue we received for any cards worth it screen. 01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:43.390 Let's just switch right down. 01:09:43.400 --> 01:09:44.500 Is a bunch of exception. 01:09:51.150 --> 01:09:51.320 Yeah. 01:10:02.500 --> 01:10:12.310 So just to keep us moving along, thinking about I keep on my talk about the year for packaging program, but I guess that's we have three separate stakeholder meetings for that. 01:10:12.320 --> 01:10:16.420 So stop doesn't blend into this state. 01:10:16.430 --> 01:10:17.390 Does blend in? 01:10:17.460 --> 01:10:41.900 Yes, I'm also wondering about the other materials like where we're using EPA grant funding for grant that we did get to do a waste characterization study across the state trying to figure out what's in the waste stream so that we can kind of get a better handle on what we need to do to move things out of the way strains figure out what are the problem, materials that are in narrowly W batteries and studiously a big one. 01:10:43.740 --> 01:10:55.670 So are there other products that come to mind like the bulky waste or whatever else you might be dealing with it behind us particularly problematic are always you know. 01:10:58.200 --> 01:10:59.400 Actresses for us. 01:10:59.410 --> 01:11:00.040 I was gonna let you. 01:11:00.270 --> 01:11:01.760 Are you going to church tonight? 01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:03.950 This is for you. 01:11:04.180 --> 01:11:05.730 It's non. 01:11:06.730 --> 01:11:07.720 Don't go into it. 01:11:07.790 --> 01:11:10.950 Yeah, ask a question. 01:11:11.120 --> 01:11:11.350 Sure. 01:11:11.360 --> 01:11:13.050 What about those new memory? 01:11:13.100 --> 01:11:14.910 Not new, but memory. Phone. 01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:18.410 How do those go in the film? 01:11:20.010 --> 01:11:20.620 Bouncy. 01:11:20.870 --> 01:11:27.380 I think I would think put it on the giant sponges they do ohh shoes. 01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.370 It's not a settings, not as bad as the box. 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.980 Sometimes they work real well, mixed with wet waste, yeah. 01:11:37.410 --> 01:11:41.660 That that would be another question that I would have. 01:11:41.750 --> 01:12:00.860 It is this the the new waste management plan has addressed in any fashion since LCD 1911 is committed to why has the plan that addressed wet waste wet, wet waste no plane gets updated every five years. 01:12:00.870 --> 01:12:08.810 So this is the first this these stakeholder meetings are to get feedback and then take that feedback and drop it into the looking for it. 01:12:08.850 --> 01:12:10.520 So yeah, download debris. 01:12:10.530 --> 01:12:10.990 What waste? 01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.600 Those are all things that we want to talk about. 01:12:14.240 --> 01:12:18.490 Certain 1911 is that the no spreading of sludge, or is that the but yeah. 01:12:22.670 --> 01:12:29.360 Yeah, 1911 was slide 1639 was that we have, yes, that we just say numbers in our world. 01:12:29.490 --> 01:12:29.920 I'm good. 01:12:31.790 --> 01:12:32.140 Thank you. 01:12:32.150 --> 01:12:32.680 Let me know. 01:12:32.690 --> 01:12:38.380 Seen 39, just so the crew understands. 01:12:38.430 --> 01:12:39.780 Doesn't get confused. 01:12:39.790 --> 01:12:48.030 Is right now it would appear that 718's gonna go through which is going to put a hold on 1639, right? 01:12:48.200 --> 01:12:55.620 Yep, and, but it's only gonna put a hold on for a couple years and I'm all for all for recycling. 01:12:56.060 --> 01:12:57.110 We want to recycle. 01:12:57.120 --> 01:12:59.410 I will not let recyclables come into the landfill. 01:13:00.470 --> 01:13:00.980 Umm. 01:13:01.950 --> 01:13:08.360 However, 1630 nines been put off, which will be helpful for a couple years until we see other. 01:13:10.430 --> 01:13:18.140 Ways of going to be able to recycle sludge, but the the clock will be ticking just as soon as the governor signs it. 01:13:18.150 --> 01:13:20.540 So just concerned. 01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:30.680 Wet last piece it it becomes very, very problematic and and a landfill. 01:13:31.230 --> 01:13:32.050 It too much of it. 01:13:32.710 --> 01:13:34.650 Have a feeling bill knows what I'm talking about. 01:13:36.150 --> 01:13:39.380 Something more problematic than there's no place to take in Mark. 01:13:40.140 --> 01:13:47.840 I'm talking about take a lot more like some the most of it's going to where that's different. 01:13:48.190 --> 01:13:48.670 Yeah, yeah. 01:13:49.230 --> 01:13:50.460 You know all the way down to China. 01:13:50.470 --> 01:13:51.060 The Ridge. 01:13:51.250 --> 01:13:51.870 Well, it's coming. 01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:53.570 We don't want to say so. 01:13:53.630 --> 01:13:53.950 No. 01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:55.510 So it depends on your treatment. 01:13:55.960 --> 01:14:01.280 But also treatment plant guy, but it depends on your treatment process how much sludge you didn't, how frequently you have to deal with it. 01:14:01.290 --> 01:14:04.950 If you're using all the system 30 years, you know you don't. 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:05.610 You don't remove. 01:14:05.620 --> 01:14:06.530 You have a lot of them into. 01:14:06.540 --> 01:14:17.390 It stays at the bottom of the code for 20 years, but it's much one second generation, so then they'll be large volumes for the routine ones. 01:14:17.400 --> 01:14:20.140 We're getting them prestile stuff. 01:14:21.620 --> 01:14:23.830 So get a large volume, though that would be much. 01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:28.930 That's a very different way of, yeah, good example. 01:14:28.940 --> 01:14:31.790 Caribou did theirs three years ago. 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:35.820 Yeah, but that was, I don't know, couldn't help, but all of it. 01:14:37.450 --> 01:14:46.860 The Canada not, that's, that's where that's no, it had a lot of a lot of foreign objects in it, like plastics and brags and. 01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:50.360 And so it went together. 01:14:50.650 --> 01:14:52.470 And that's not deep water at that point. 01:14:52.480 --> 01:14:56.140 If there was, it was the higher a contractor comes in expense this summer. 01:14:57.080 --> 01:14:58.340 Talk about a great summer job. 01:14:59.950 --> 01:15:03.510 No, and they do waterfall, which is a big one. 01:15:06.470 --> 01:15:07.820 30 something, yeah. 01:15:07.860 --> 01:15:10.940 So like this huge trailer? 01:15:10.950 --> 01:15:14.570 Truckloads of modern sludged they don't to. 01:15:16.790 --> 01:15:19.500 Which is still a lot of water that the movie mechanica. 01:15:19.670 --> 01:15:20.140 Yeah. 01:15:20.210 --> 01:15:20.600 Yeah. 01:15:20.660 --> 01:15:21.530 And how much tonnage? 01:15:21.660 --> 01:15:25.710 Just get like per lagoon and ask me that. 01:15:28.370 --> 01:15:30.780 Gotta be close to 100,000 plus. 01:15:30.930 --> 01:15:31.660 Wow, no. 01:15:31.740 --> 01:15:33.620 After deep watering, 100,000. 01:15:33.630 --> 01:15:34.120 Yeah. 01:15:34.130 --> 01:15:39.260 Devoted many truck lifts 45% if you get 20%. 01:15:39.390 --> 01:15:39.830 Yeah. 01:15:39.990 --> 01:15:42.880 Yeah, it's a big it's loaded. 01:15:42.890 --> 01:15:43.440 Jello. 01:15:43.740 --> 01:15:46.250 Yeah, it's it's look better. 01:15:46.260 --> 01:15:49.360 Like, take a shower with the like that and this. 01:15:52.160 --> 01:15:53.190 What are they do with it? 01:15:53.200 --> 01:15:55.770 Canada. It's Lance. 01:15:56.480 --> 01:15:58.000 No, it's probably not. 01:15:58.010 --> 01:15:59.760 That was good. 01:15:59.870 --> 01:16:00.920 Umm, it's pretty. 01:16:01.390 --> 01:16:04.080 Other other cleaner stuff, excused for compost. 01:16:05.100 --> 01:16:07.530 You know, where did it go? 01:16:07.540 --> 01:16:12.180 What landfill did it go to the camera and could you could journey did it? 01:16:15.820 --> 01:16:16.320 I don't know. 01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:17.250 I don't arrest them. 01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:24.080 If you don't know it went N went through customs display maybe. 01:16:24.090 --> 01:16:30.960 Sorry, I know when you get 682 ton in one day and you don't get enough stuff to mix with it, it becomes a real problem. 01:16:31.410 --> 01:16:34.120 Yeah, I paid her. 01:16:34.330 --> 01:16:36.670 I'm certainty gonna end up. 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:39.450 Again, comma in this presenter. 01:16:41.700 --> 01:16:43.960 So yeah. 01:16:44.870 --> 01:16:45.070 Yeah. 01:16:47.110 --> 01:16:48.320 And then give us your name. 01:16:48.330 --> 01:16:48.540 Right. 01:16:48.550 --> 01:16:49.480 And serial number please. 01:16:54.040 --> 01:16:54.650 And you're muted. 01:17:00.590 --> 01:17:00.970 Something. 01:17:02.710 --> 01:17:06.820 OK, to figure that out actually, is it not? 01:17:06.830 --> 01:17:07.880 Needed on our end, though, right? 01:17:07.890 --> 01:17:08.290 No, he's. 01:17:12.740 --> 01:17:18.100 Other people's hands slaps you have a lot of power. 01:17:19.820 --> 01:17:20.680 I have no idea. 01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:23.370 Does somebody else have their hand raised? 01:17:23.380 --> 01:17:25.610 I just see like it's still OK. 01:17:27.490 --> 01:17:28.230 Who is newly? 01:17:29.250 --> 01:17:35.820 So I'll send to you considering the fact that we've only dealt with municipal waste water slide with the law clearly stated that septic was was next. 01:17:35.870 --> 01:17:36.220 Yeah. 01:17:36.260 --> 01:17:43.740 You know, I think the bottom line is longer strategic long term planning for sludge management instinct. 01:17:44.370 --> 01:17:50.830 I don't recall that it's been part of the Plan 4 or if it is, it's like doing mostly part of the plant. 01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:58.140 So if we have a solution so the the reporting is doctor, it's it's focused on solid waste. 01:17:58.740 --> 01:18:08.210 But obviously if there's a mass quantity of other ways that take up space in the landfills that are intended for solid waste, then you can't really avoid talking about it. 01:18:08.220 --> 01:18:11.540 It has to be more than conversation so, but it's solid place. 01:18:11.550 --> 01:18:12.230 It's just talking. 01:18:12.240 --> 01:18:19.870 It's so right, it's solid, solid, better chance we'll send you some up. 01:18:22.430 --> 01:18:25.580 That's what we're gonna be. 01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.590 So what it is, that's something that just saw it. 01:18:30.180 --> 01:18:31.170 It's stable. 01:18:31.240 --> 01:18:31.610 Yeah. 01:18:31.660 --> 01:18:32.330 So. 01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:42.570 So I guess following up on that a little bit, one of the things I noticed, I went back and looked at the 2019 plan and I thought about previous versions of it. 01:18:42.580 --> 01:18:52.770 One of the things I noticed in 2019 version was there was no discussion at all about capacity disposal capacity and which surprised me a little bit. 01:18:52.780 --> 01:19:01.980 I don't know why I didn't catch that before, but I was looking more specifically because I mean we're good here in Augusta County and AWS. 01:19:01.990 --> 01:19:08.570 We've got probably between 35 to 40 years of capacity remaining in our two, there are two sides. 01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:36.200 Uh, but I look at what's going on elsewhere with certain facilities that were being unnamed but going they're really, to me, looks like there could be a potential problem here with somebody, you know, very basic thing that we should be doing in solid waste industry is that if someone in Lewiston, Lyman, Lincoln or limestone throw something away, it goes somewhere. 01:19:36.210 --> 01:19:47.620 And disposed of appropriate and you know, if we're not doing that fundamental foundational thing, it's awfully hard to build on any of the other things that we're talking about here. 01:19:47.630 --> 01:20:13.120 So it would seem at this plan should kind of do a back to the basics a little bit and say OK where, but facilities do we have what's there at the capacity, what is there time frame, what are their likelihood to being online and determine whether or not to be able to achieve that goal or so seems like it's missing and really at least the next five years really should be first and foremost. 01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:15.830 He's from me sitting up here looking South. 01:20:16.180 --> 01:20:16.810 It's South. 01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:20.400 Did you know that generation two years? 01:20:20.410 --> 01:20:20.680 Yeah. 01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:21.170 OK. 01:20:21.220 --> 01:20:24.630 And historically, I think it's well, it's the plan hasn't been around that long. 01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:25.510 It's 2014. 01:20:25.580 --> 01:20:33.700 The statute pointed to affect, so the first two or the first plan they combined with the waste generation disposable faster report for efficiency, right? 01:20:34.070 --> 01:20:47.940 Umm, so that's good feedback to keep in mind for this time around, but technically the way generation report is over two years it would be published one last year so would be next year when it comes out again. 01:20:47.950 --> 01:20:52.700 But maybe we can include a subsection based on this feedback with some of that data. 01:20:53.090 --> 01:21:04.170 It's a lot of work putting the getting, pulling all the information together because we have we get reports from, you know, everyone in this room and all over the state and some of those are like scanned reports. 01:21:04.380 --> 01:21:04.730 What's up? 01:21:04.730 --> 01:21:05.010 Works. 01:21:05.020 --> 01:21:14.510 So so we're trying to, we have a big push to try to modernize our reporting system and try to get better, more efficient with collecting information. 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:33.150 So we can spit that information out more efficiently, but that's good feedback and we will, we'll get it putting section even if it's not as robust as the region will search is environmental impacts of people not being able to throw stuff away he considers yes. 01:21:58.490 --> 01:21:59.590 Hey, can you all hear me? 01:22:12.450 --> 01:22:12.960 Hi, Jessica. 01:22:15.700 --> 01:22:16.040 I can. 01:22:15.570 --> 01:22:17.280 Hey, are they frozen for you too? 01:22:17.890 --> 01:22:19.710 They are frozen for me as well. 01:22:20.220 --> 01:22:21.360 OK so. 01:22:23.750 --> 01:22:25.390 Umm, let me give Elena call. 01:22:27.630 --> 01:22:33.900 And I see if there's something that can be rebooted on their end. 01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:35.010 Yeah. 01:22:36.430 --> 01:22:36.920 OK. 01:22:36.930 --> 01:22:38.100 So we just lost them. 01:22:38.150 --> 01:22:39.430 So we're still in the meeting. 01:22:39.440 --> 01:22:40.720 They've gotta get back in the meeting. 01:22:40.550 --> 01:22:40.760 OK. 01:22:40.730 --> 01:22:42.550 Let me give him a call I'll give you. 01:22:40.770 --> 01:22:48.810 Can I say can I see I can see Elena's allana's uh laptop because I can see her. 01:22:48.820 --> 01:22:51.400 What she had up there for the presentation part. 01:22:52.020 --> 01:22:52.380 OK. 01:22:53.250 --> 01:22:56.210 So it's the other one maybe robs laptop that we lost. 01:22:58.640 --> 01:22:58.850 Get. 01:22:57.630 --> 01:22:58.930 OK, I'll say so. 01:22:59.550 --> 01:23:03.900 Yeah, I can hear you guys, but I don't see the the meeting picture anymore. 01:23:04.490 --> 01:23:04.730 OK. 01:23:04.710 --> 01:23:05.870 Now, now, me. 01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:11.940 Either I could like I just said to Jessica, I can see I can see Elena's screen. 01:23:11.950 --> 01:23:15.430 So I know her laptop is still is still going so. 01:23:59.550 --> 01:24:00.300 I see. 01:24:00.350 --> 01:24:02.680 I see him back on the list of presenters now. 01:24:07.320 --> 01:24:10.760 They just popped up up, but they're muted. 01:24:16.490 --> 01:24:18.220 Unmute yourselves, please. 01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:22.140 There we go. 01:24:20.570 --> 01:24:23.250 Have that. Yeah. 01:24:23.110 --> 01:24:23.590 Thank you. 01:24:23.440 --> 01:24:24.790 No, that's better. 01:24:26.250 --> 01:24:27.770 That's better, but I think that's gonna. 01:24:27.850 --> 01:24:31.940 I think there is New England is running out of space. 01:24:32.020 --> 01:24:32.290 Yeah. 01:24:32.300 --> 01:24:37.130 So it's it's not only exposed in the past, but you could also if they're processing capacity right too. 01:24:37.420 --> 01:24:44.310 I mean, if we can't process it, then it's all going to be that, yeah, regardless of where or wetland till it goes and how long is that? 01:24:44.460 --> 01:24:45.650 How long is that gonna last? 01:24:45.660 --> 01:24:59.740 Week they processing capacity, you mean like incinerator at the Murph like you know dirty or wait a minute or otherwise it's you know just some sort of regional transportation network that can reduce waste before it has to be landfill. 01:24:59.750 --> 01:25:01.460 I mean, that's what you're supposed to be doing, right? 01:25:01.910 --> 01:25:02.580 Does she go? 01:25:02.710 --> 01:25:08.260 Your favorite, but, but your landfill, which is the platform, is what the system is based on, right? 01:25:08.270 --> 01:25:09.500 That's what it's all built on. 01:25:09.790 --> 01:25:14.420 And if there's nothing to process, then the landfill just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger at the bottom. 01:25:14.430 --> 01:25:19.390 So you talked about, you know, the first thing that was out of your mouth I think today was let's talk a little bit about infrastructure. 01:25:19.400 --> 01:25:20.680 Let's talk a little bit about this. 01:25:20.740 --> 01:25:21.100 Yeah. 01:25:21.190 --> 01:25:28.150 Well, infrastructure in my mind and in my, you know, what I've seen is getting outdated. 01:25:28.310 --> 01:25:29.260 It's old. 01:25:29.810 --> 01:25:54.050 It's not really keeping up with the new materials that are coming into, you know, the market and we have a lack of those processing facilities and state process won't happens instinct it which leads us to exporting again and again and again like other waste streams that we can't manage and you know Wayne talked with the legislature, we hear the legislature pain has to deal with main ways. 01:25:54.060 --> 01:25:59.830 Well, main does not deal with main ways, just starts of anyways. 01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:00.470 Not all of it. 01:26:00.480 --> 01:26:18.190 And so I think that's something to look at as well as like like find trying to find that balance of how we can the process more of our own waste in state and not become an export state like Massachusetts has, which has all been the owners on main and New Hampshire to have more capacity issues with their own. 01:26:18.660 --> 01:26:24.940 So I mean, I'm all for regionalisms, but until everybody's for regionalism, we have to work with what we got. 01:26:26.210 --> 01:26:33.640 So regionalism is one of the things we want Ryan's division, that running your early presenter. 01:26:35.670 --> 01:26:36.290 He's here. 01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:37.960 Yeah, but I didn't wanna just thrust myself in. 01:26:38.790 --> 01:26:39.380 It's alright. 01:26:39.570 --> 01:26:40.370 Still or something? 01:26:41.120 --> 01:26:43.610 So I'm gonna follow up Shelby statement with like. 01:26:43.620 --> 01:26:43.840 Yeah. 01:26:43.850 --> 01:27:01.780 So that how would you, yeah, how would you and then with my opening statement too of how would you foresee funding that type of infrastructure development in your mind, what would your what would your opinion be to fund that type of investment? 01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:14.410 Now I would, I would say, you know, like federal state investment in infrastructure, but also too funding is not really the the problem. 01:27:14.420 --> 01:27:24.490 I think in some factors it's, you know it's regulation, regulatory signing, permitting time of you know that did takes to get these projects underway. 01:27:24.580 --> 01:27:29.830 And then knowing that a public referendum can come around at any time and say you can't do your project. 01:27:30.460 --> 01:27:36.040 So I think there's other challenges than just funding, but I think that is the that's the golden ticket question, right. 01:27:36.060 --> 01:27:36.630 So he's gonna pay. 01:27:39.510 --> 01:27:43.860 Never use it, please never use that user fees you know, but it's gotta get built. 01:27:43.870 --> 01:27:51.040 It's gotta get financed and it has to be done in such a way that it's sensitized and attractive to the person that's going to make that infrastructure. 01:27:51.050 --> 01:27:52.580 What did you say earlier? 01:27:52.590 --> 01:27:54.770 You municipalities can't take risk. 01:27:55.510 --> 01:27:55.840 Great. 01:27:55.850 --> 01:28:02.050 So private companies are going to have to take that risk, but using what money and for what guarantee, right? 01:28:02.190 --> 01:28:04.480 So I really don't know. 01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:06.810 I I I brought it up not knowing the answer. 01:28:06.820 --> 01:28:13.570 I brought it that bad as I see it the the I don't know about Wayne, but running running landfill E #1 rule. 01:28:14.310 --> 01:28:16.140 Ohh, I'd spend ever. 01:28:16.470 --> 01:28:18.220 You could screw everything else up. 01:28:18.430 --> 01:28:24.210 Do not space right people are depending on you to take care of this stuff, to throw it away. 01:28:24.220 --> 01:28:25.780 And that's what keeps me awake at night. 01:28:25.790 --> 01:28:28.980 Is the thought of holy cow, and we're gonna have enough space and we do. 01:28:29.020 --> 01:28:32.240 But it's what that's that's rule #1. 01:28:32.910 --> 01:28:34.520 Everything builds on that. 01:28:34.770 --> 01:28:39.200 You know, I I look at the hierarchy a little bit different, I would turn it upside down. 01:28:39.750 --> 01:28:57.420 I would say the landfills are your foundation and everything's built on and you can do any of the other stuff, but if you don't have that foundation well established and secure and you know that's the case and whether it's landfill or incinerator, I called them spoken to. 01:28:57.590 --> 01:29:01.300 That's not probably right, but yeah, some it's. 01:29:01.370 --> 01:29:04.560 Yeah, it's where the stuff is gone, please. 01:29:05.850 --> 01:29:06.600 Yeah, it's here. 01:29:08.740 --> 01:29:15.300 So but you said earlier you funnel everyone to these private holders. 01:29:15.470 --> 01:29:17.120 Is that because you don't want? 01:29:17.310 --> 01:29:19.740 You don't want cars coming to the lake, right? 01:29:19.750 --> 01:29:21.200 That's the that's traffic issue. 01:29:21.210 --> 01:29:36.050 It's just traffic so, but unfortunately when you're then doing that, then all of the let's get something out of the landfill that Shelby was talking about is becomes harder. 01:29:36.220 --> 01:29:38.930 Yeah, we, we actually had that conversation earlier. 01:29:39.450 --> 01:29:40.060 It's harder. 01:29:40.420 --> 01:29:52.880 I mean, one of the things that we think about when we try to do our programs and we've got take your light bulbs here and take your batteries here and take your eyes here is like people need like the place, right? 01:29:52.890 --> 01:30:05.230 They can go this if you want, you can drop it off and they can bring all their stuff and that obviously gets harder the more you spread out. Uh. 01:30:07.970 --> 01:30:09.330 Do you see is there? 01:30:12.390 --> 01:30:14.210 Capacity is there so in. 01:30:14.250 --> 01:30:30.810 If you think about your sites, how much of Overstock County is a WS 3/4 like 74% less calculation of the population of the basically the whole to the Saint John St. 01:30:30.900 --> 01:30:32.230 About everything else. 01:30:32.940 --> 01:30:38.180 And so you have these 20 sites like to what extent could these other sites be? 01:30:39.860 --> 01:30:49.490 Would it be helpful if they were able to take more if they were able to be more of a hub for taking all of this stuff, do you think that would encourage people to use them? 01:30:49.650 --> 01:30:53.160 Probably could like satellite transfer station type thing. 01:30:53.460 --> 01:30:55.190 Well, you don't need if you. 01:30:55.200 --> 01:30:59.310 If you're recycling, you're on transfer station, right? 01:30:59.320 --> 01:31:00.070 Right, OK. 01:31:00.400 --> 01:31:01.450 You're gonna take everything. 01:31:01.460 --> 01:31:06.950 You're also going to take your trash that people wanna take their trash one round trip? 01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:08.340 Well, but if you've got, but if you've got. 01:31:09.890 --> 01:31:10.360 Yeah, right. 01:31:10.370 --> 01:31:13.500 So if you've already got a private poll coming to your house, chances. 01:31:13.510 --> 01:31:23.520 If you go into this other place, even if it's a fairly convenient place or significantly lower, yeah, I mean, ideally you and everything would be curbside collected. 01:31:23.950 --> 01:31:25.120 That's not gonna happen. 01:31:25.370 --> 01:31:29.460 We just don't have that kind of population based where everything can be curbside collected. 01:31:29.890 --> 01:31:36.530 You know your your trash picked up Tuesday recyclables on Wednesday, and it's involved on that way at the curve. 01:31:36.540 --> 01:31:38.080 That's that's not gonna work. 01:31:38.690 --> 01:31:39.200 Account. 01:31:39.210 --> 01:31:39.740 It works. 01:31:39.750 --> 01:31:49.280 And Portland to do happens agreements don't do it now cause Bangor is all you know, whatever he that's that's that's that's the ideal. 01:31:49.610 --> 01:31:50.720 But it's gonna be curbside. 01:31:50.730 --> 01:32:11.970 Second ideal would be everybody goes to want to spot and they already have people come to pick up their trash and it would free and they they have multiple convenient places to take everything else that could be visible too, as long as it's no problem with a lot of the work to do to convenient spots is their backs of fields and woods roads up here? 01:32:11.980 --> 01:32:13.130 That's that's a real challenge. 01:32:13.360 --> 01:32:13.950 What you thinking? 01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:18.530 You're rural areas so much, Mark sons, Forest Ranger. 01:32:18.620 --> 01:32:23.130 I talked to him a lot about found another dump and it's only three acres. 01:32:23.280 --> 01:32:23.580 Yay. 01:32:23.910 --> 01:32:26.660 Yeah, but seriously, we we're good. 01:32:26.830 --> 01:32:28.920 We have lots of satellite landfills. 01:32:29.250 --> 01:32:31.040 Riverside County go on Google Earth. 01:32:31.050 --> 01:32:32.140 You can find and it's. 01:32:32.150 --> 01:32:38.660 It's a struggling we have no solid waste person, you know, chasing them down in northern Maine too. 01:32:38.670 --> 01:32:39.910 And that's that's been a child. 01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:46.290 I don't mark spoke to me about losing volume after we lost our soldiers that seriously. 01:32:46.300 --> 01:32:50.450 So that's it's substantially so it just usually trash just to just. 01:32:50.460 --> 01:32:51.170 I'm curious. 01:32:51.180 --> 01:32:54.870 They look at Struction and demo debris, a huge one, right? 01:32:54.920 --> 01:32:55.140 Yeah. 01:32:55.150 --> 01:32:55.590 Pause. 01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:56.140 Disappear. 01:32:57.450 --> 01:33:03.560 You know, on main streets and then we find the big pile of demo on it back 40 somewhere. 01:33:04.460 --> 01:33:05.990 But we do have household trash. 01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:11.540 I mean, we think of the North Caribbean field there for three or four year, that was huge. 01:33:11.550 --> 01:33:17.930 I mean, it's four acres or I tore open bags and they were bad dresses and was like 20 households using it, right? 01:33:18.350 --> 01:33:20.760 Just a little bit here, if you don't mind. 01:33:20.870 --> 01:33:29.920 So the demo debris, something that's something separate, another huge issue, but I think what we were talking about poster up here later Depot which is separate. 01:33:29.930 --> 01:33:32.800 So people have their trash picked up at their house. 01:33:32.810 --> 01:33:33.980 They want to do recycling. 01:33:33.990 --> 01:33:42.510 Maybe they can't do it correct side, but if there were hugs across the region where they could take the recyclables, the demo was a totally separate that's much bigger beast. 01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:47.070 But it is a it's that's challenge here because it has to be super convenient, right? 01:33:47.080 --> 01:33:49.960 Because it's super easy to super to be to dot. 01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.120 Yeah, you know, we can get weird things. 01:33:52.130 --> 01:33:54.430 You know, it's my nephew stopped over. 01:33:54.440 --> 01:33:55.670 He was going to the dump. 01:33:55.680 --> 01:34:01.610 That's why my name was in a bag of trash down in the gravel pit, you know, and that kind of stuff. 01:34:01.620 --> 01:34:01.980 You did. 01:34:02.850 --> 01:34:05.470 That was your different we got. 01:34:05.670 --> 01:34:07.210 We got a comment. Cat. 01:34:07.830 --> 01:34:09.790 Cat, Telly or presenter? 01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:15.050 Hi yeah I got a message up here says I'm a presenter. 01:34:15.060 --> 01:34:16.400 I'm not quite sure if you want me to be. 01:34:17.940 --> 01:34:20.040 You might wanna change my status. 01:34:20.690 --> 01:34:21.190 Ohh you'll be. 01:34:22.580 --> 01:34:23.370 I I beg your pardon. 01:34:24.350 --> 01:34:25.980 I'll change you as soon as you through. 01:34:25.900 --> 01:34:26.570 OK. 01:34:26.580 --> 01:34:27.230 Thank you. 01:34:27.310 --> 01:34:28.050 Uh, yeah. 01:34:28.060 --> 01:34:40.660 I just finished attending a meeting with the Municipal Review Committee down in Orono and they're talking about their new association with a startup company called Innovative Resource Recovery. 01:34:41.130 --> 01:34:54.050 And they have no intentions of incineration or using any kind of anaerobic, anaerobic digestion for organic materials, except for daily cover for landfills. 01:34:54.320 --> 01:35:04.130 They will send anything that is not recyclable and they hope to meet the 50% benchmark for recycling to Crossroads landfill. 01:35:05.440 --> 01:35:12.150 Ask them what they plan to do when landfills are exhausted and they really didn't have an answer for that. 01:35:15.410 --> 01:35:15.550 Yep. 01:35:12.160 --> 01:35:26.910 They said that's the states problem, you know, so, uh, so given the problems that Juniper Ridge has been having, I live right down the road from Juniper Ridge in Argyle and about nine years ago, the MRC tried to put a landfill in our town, which we defeated. 01:35:27.310 --> 01:35:32.490 And so I'm very invested in finding solutions for rural waste management. 01:35:32.620 --> 01:35:40.050 I feel that the problems with rural waste management and March nodding his head because I attended meetings with him before and I understand. 01:35:40.060 --> 01:35:50.870 I grew up in Hudson, Maine and we had a 65 acre farm and at the back of that farm there was a dump, you know, where people would take what they couldn't burn in the burn barrel and dump it down at the back 40. 01:35:50.980 --> 01:35:53.830 And and it was usually glass and cans. 01:35:53.880 --> 01:36:08.340 So now today, with everything being disposable, we really need to and I'm really encouraged by this discussion here, because I sent Robert Burke a list of questions and suggestions. 01:36:08.350 --> 01:36:25.480 I don't know if he shared that with you, but I'd be happy to send it on again if someone could give me an email address to send it to and my solution after growing up in rural Maine is that we do need to have a distributed yet cooperative association between towns. 01:36:25.830 --> 01:36:37.980 Every town used to have its own duck and as badly planned and as badly situated as they were, they I think are still grandfathered in and could be converted into transfer stations. 01:36:37.990 --> 01:36:41.120 So if everyone could, we always used to go to the dump, right? 01:36:41.130 --> 01:36:42.700 And that was almost like an event. 01:36:43.250 --> 01:36:51.130 We take our trash can down and dump whatever we had left, but also at the dump was the section of things that were too good to toss. 01:36:51.340 --> 01:37:04.550 Now these are things that probably wouldn't go into a goodwill store or a used furniture store or whatever, but they were things that some people found useful, like building supplies and paint, and Roundup and clothing. 01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:08.300 My mother used to take a claw hammer with her and we'd stripped down any furniture. 01:37:08.310 --> 01:37:10.430 That was at the dump and we reupholster it. 01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:23.570 People in the rurals are very creative and we find a use for most everything and that's why you see a bunch of cars parked in the front yard because they're parts cars because the car we're driving has to pass inspection. 01:37:24.180 --> 01:37:34.580 So if you'd like me to send this on, I don't wanna be long winded or take up your time, but I would be happy to share this information with you because it is kind of covering what you're touching on right here. 01:37:34.590 --> 01:37:36.290 And I think it might be a solution. 01:37:36.400 --> 01:37:40.030 The solution I feel is not to have big regional dumps. 01:37:40.240 --> 01:37:46.190 The solution is to have a satellite cooperative of of local dumps. 01:37:46.260 --> 01:37:53.280 You know, and I call them thumbs because you know, that's where we can call them transfer stations, if that's better. 01:37:53.580 --> 01:38:00.220 But this would be a collection site for things and then towns could collaborate on shipping them to an appropriate disposal site. 01:38:00.310 --> 01:38:01.920 It doesn't have to be everyday. 01:38:01.930 --> 01:38:03.760 It doesn't have to be every week. 01:38:04.110 --> 01:38:15.100 It doesn't have to be every 10 years, but still I think that if that is the focus of of changing the waste management rules that we could release the. 01:38:15.330 --> 01:38:34.280 Restrictions on no municipal dumps anymore and open them up again for non MSW products and to be able to hire people at the town level to go in and salvage and whatever can be gleaned from that to take it to the appropriate venue. 01:38:34.290 --> 01:38:41.560 And also what can't be could be put in a container and when it's full you take it to the landfill. 01:38:41.690 --> 01:38:53.050 So this whole curbside pickup thing, I I think is a mistake because it just encourages people to not to just throw everything away in the in the trash and nobody checks the truck. 01:38:53.150 --> 01:39:06.360 Nobody checks it when it dumps it in a container at at the Old Town transfer station, so a lot of things are slipping through the cracks that are contributing to the toxic chemical issue that we're facing right now. 01:39:06.450 --> 01:39:10.520 And it's interesting that all of these things are coming to a head at once. 01:39:11.410 --> 01:39:16.280 And right now, in the Bangor area, we really don't have any recycling solutions. 01:39:16.850 --> 01:39:17.210 Thank you. 01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:21.070 We need more transfer stations. 01:39:21.930 --> 01:39:22.230 Yeah. 01:39:24.480 --> 01:39:25.180 Old Town. 01:39:22.270 --> 01:39:26.900 Transfer stations work should they do so, it opens and yeah. 01:39:26.860 --> 01:39:27.410 I'm sorry. 01:39:27.460 --> 01:39:29.380 Are you talking about my transfer station? 01:39:29.390 --> 01:39:29.920 That I take my. 01:39:29.940 --> 01:39:31.860 Yeah, I was talking in general to everybody. 01:39:32.240 --> 01:39:33.620 Ohh OK sorry bye. 01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:40.160 So I really think the humans keep in rural area and it lends itself to a lot of solutions. 01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:50.960 They uh, it can be dynamic and changeable, they can evolve and they need to because we have an ever changing waste tree. 01:39:51.620 --> 01:39:52.130 Umm. 01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:57.610 And it takes a lot of that traffic pressure off the landfill in. 01:39:59.810 --> 01:40:05.680 You know when I mean our facility in Fort Fairfield, Shelby toward it with me today. 01:40:05.690 --> 01:40:10.350 And you know, basically we operate a landfill and a transfer station at the same site. 01:40:10.360 --> 01:40:11.200 That's what we're doing. 01:40:11.370 --> 01:40:15.820 It's it's a combination of both and that's what we've been doing in Prescott. 01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:25.710 Yeah, goes collection of all but as far as other transfer stations like other municipal sites that are taking recycling only. 01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:34.230 Are there any or we have some other than the lot of our customers or in some cases are individual municipalities that don't transfer station. 01:40:34.240 --> 01:40:40.850 Everything is server side and collected and all to the landfill, but we gassed up regional transfer station. 01:40:40.860 --> 01:40:41.610 Ashland's a good example. 01:40:41.620 --> 01:40:42.210 Example. 01:40:42.220 --> 01:40:43.730 Ashley has a transfer station. 01:40:43.740 --> 01:40:45.570 They're serving, I think, 7 towns. 01:40:46.020 --> 01:40:47.360 They do their own recycling. 01:40:47.370 --> 01:40:48.410 They don't recycle with us. 01:40:48.420 --> 01:40:53.400 They make their own recycling, but we are the destination for the trailer when it's full of trash. 01:40:54.670 --> 01:40:57.680 The pine Tree Transfer station in hole. 01:40:57.990 --> 01:40:59.720 How many misspellings they're serving? 01:40:59.990 --> 01:41:02.720 A bunch of them, that whole Southern rustic area. 01:41:02.730 --> 01:41:06.840 So that's, that's all been, that's all over time as evolved here. 01:41:07.470 --> 01:41:09.540 Eagle Lake has a transfer station that. 01:41:10.590 --> 01:41:22.940 Does the same thing, so that's worked because they're a transfer station frenchville, they're service Centers for large, for spread out populations, kind of just evolved where it made sense to do right. 01:41:22.950 --> 01:41:25.880 You know, since the 1990s. 01:41:25.890 --> 01:41:28.880 Yeah, we're all going when the sound dump was closed. 01:41:28.890 --> 01:41:30.380 What are we gonna do exactly? 01:41:30.710 --> 01:41:34.690 It's evolved and it's been very much regionalized here, Costa County and it works. 01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:39.450 I mean it works to the extent that it extent that that's. 01:41:41.640 --> 01:41:46.000 And why is it to that extent what's so, you know, it's gotta figure out, friend. 01:41:46.010 --> 01:41:47.560 She's gonna figure out Ashley's figure it out. 01:41:47.570 --> 01:41:47.770 What? 01:41:47.780 --> 01:41:49.030 What these other places? 01:41:49.040 --> 01:41:50.870 What for men, but most of them are. 01:41:50.880 --> 01:41:59.890 You are sharing one of those or like in some of the communities or right around for Fairfield or such a realistic they just halt direct to the main but they don't have to transfer station. 01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:01.520 Those are the towns. 01:42:01.530 --> 01:42:02.890 Usually we have Englands. 01:42:02.980 --> 01:42:07.440 That's where our recycling drop offs are because they don't have that that service. 01:42:07.450 --> 01:42:08.230 So we provide. 01:42:10.410 --> 01:42:11.520 Difference difference lacking. 01:42:11.650 --> 01:42:12.390 But I mean what? 01:42:13.450 --> 01:42:15.720 It gets to a certain point, and it's gonna be economics. 01:42:15.730 --> 01:42:20.970 It's just so far you're going to transport things and it's so far you can ask me to drive everything. 01:42:22.470 --> 01:42:30.860 Thinking of this hub and spoke than years ago, we'd working with Nick about the idea of HW doing that. 01:42:30.910 --> 01:42:37.720 Yeah, we would have the single you said the day collections Presque Isle or Caribou and that was it. 01:42:37.850 --> 01:42:45.460 She's why can't we have on the same day earlier today someone collecting this stuff, paint or whatever up in frenchville and drive it down. 01:42:46.540 --> 01:42:47.230 So they need. 01:42:47.280 --> 01:42:53.600 How do you not really hard to explain permanently transport license, you know, and it's all those things that just can't do it. Yeah. 01:42:55.940 --> 01:42:59.210 But again, transfer stations kind of lend themselves to that. 01:42:59.220 --> 01:43:04.260 You just cite your picked up your hazardous waste station. 01:43:06.140 --> 01:43:07.840 It looks pizza show anymore. 01:43:07.890 --> 01:43:22.180 So, so the operational costs are shared about so fewer people, areas, you know that that's the thing getting a human being to sit there and equipment, it's shared across a lot less people, right, our geographical area. 01:43:22.190 --> 01:43:26.750 So you need 20 all the the net cost is higher into the community. 01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:31.960 You know it's competing with the school, you know, plowing the roads and everything else. 01:43:31.970 --> 01:43:33.450 And that's that's fair. 01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:35.260 So they WS exists? 01:43:35.460 --> 01:43:35.820 Yeah. 01:43:36.040 --> 01:43:37.170 Need one entity now? 01:43:37.180 --> 01:43:37.470 Certainly. 01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:41.640 So, OK, curbside and all these towns is cheaper. 01:43:43.220 --> 01:43:44.180 It depends. 01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:45.670 I don't know what cheaper. 01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:46.130 It's hard. 01:43:46.140 --> 01:43:48.030 We don't have relative scale, right? 01:43:48.340 --> 01:43:50.720 So bucks a month now, 15 months. 01:43:50.730 --> 01:43:52.180 Well, you're a customer. 01:43:53.090 --> 01:43:57.550 Think I'm paying 15 bucks a month towards Midcoast solid waste? 01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:00.190 So, but that's OK. 01:44:00.410 --> 01:44:03.210 Most of the commercial haulers are probably 25 to 30. 01:44:06.210 --> 01:44:10.030 Yeah, needs to be looked at because it's just trash, not trash. 01:44:10.330 --> 01:44:11.480 The town's being the topic. 01:44:11.550 --> 01:44:13.210 Yeah, right. 01:44:13.220 --> 01:44:13.940 So then they're paying. 01:44:13.950 --> 01:44:18.130 So then you're paying the tipping fee, plus paint tipping through through your taxes. 01:44:18.140 --> 01:44:19.730 And then you're paying the right? 01:44:20.060 --> 01:44:23.010 Yeah, unless you're in Presque Isle and it's a different system. 01:44:23.120 --> 01:44:30.130 But yeah, the big fees are included cost city does not pay the tipping fee. 01:44:32.450 --> 01:44:32.790 Let's go. 01:44:34.090 --> 01:44:38.340 Things have evolved in different ways, so. 01:44:38.400 --> 01:44:46.440 So if we go to the packaging for second, municipal cost is a reimbursable cost to this cost is not our. 01:44:47.900 --> 01:44:59.460 You're going to have a situation where if the municipality we're taking on that cost, it becomes a reimbursable cost, potentially goes down and versus if citizens got that cost, it's not a reimbursable. 01:45:01.810 --> 01:45:23.890 And yet so it so in terms of the economics, what's cheaper the packaging program will push even further towards, you know it's over to look at the full picture that being a cheaper scenario and yet you've got I guess the train and all the momentum going in the other direction. 01:45:25.080 --> 01:45:25.720 So do we. 01:45:25.730 --> 01:45:36.400 I mean, is it like a study that an economic study that looks at, you know what people are paying versus what might be a transfer station thing? 01:45:36.410 --> 01:45:46.610 How do you, you know, if we if we're changing that economics potentially, how do we get that change in the economics to to influence what's actually happening? 01:45:46.620 --> 01:45:49.640 Because I can imagine that it just doesn't change because it's already doing this. 01:45:51.660 --> 01:45:58.190 Even if and actually, it would make sense for everyone to do something different, assuming that it would be. 01:45:58.200 --> 01:45:59.800 Isn't that can I? 01:45:59.850 --> 01:46:01.230 Can I clarify what you just said? 01:46:01.240 --> 01:46:03.100 Because I think I got it, but I don't know. 01:46:03.610 --> 01:46:12.500 I apologize for that, but hell, it's not sure you saying that instead of encouraging, like curbside collection or people to transfer stations. 01:46:12.510 --> 01:46:20.080 So we should be pushing the municipalities to reinforce reimburse private haulers to do that for them. 01:46:20.090 --> 01:46:24.760 So innocent municipal offense of expense that can be funneled through the PR program. 01:46:24.810 --> 01:46:26.860 Is that so? So. 01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:31.370 You just pull expense can go through the I PR program. 01:46:31.380 --> 01:46:42.880 So whether that's the town paying for curbside right or having a transfer station, we were just talking about the transfer station operationally having a person there. 01:46:43.240 --> 01:46:45.340 So you have you either way you do it right. 01:46:45.730 --> 01:46:59.460 If it's a municipal expense, it's a it would be potentially reimbursable because the subscription services that the private citizen pay to, you know Bob to come and pick up their trash or not reimburse no. 01:46:59.590 --> 01:47:10.000 So are you suggesting that we should be moving towards more municipal services because it's going to be a reimbursable expense under BR? 01:47:10.350 --> 01:47:12.480 I wouldn't say that I'm suggesting that we do that. 01:47:12.490 --> 01:47:29.100 And what I'm saying is that, well, the reality is that the economic other such right, that if that were me display expense, this program potentially you know results in a situation where where curbside where it makes sense financially. 01:47:29.110 --> 01:47:40.360 If you think about the total amount that a person is paying for their trash for it to be done by the municipality, and yet we're already doing it this way, I'm moving it to this system. 01:47:40.580 --> 01:47:48.420 Even if we change the economics so that it makes sense to do a transfer station where you are. 01:47:49.060 --> 01:47:58.890 Umm getting sort of more of the recycling done and and and having other options for people to deal with their material other than just throw it in the trash. 01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:09.670 If that becomes more financially, you know because of this program is that is that's not necessarily gonna change what's happening. 01:48:09.680 --> 01:48:10.780 How do we make it change? 01:48:10.790 --> 01:48:12.820 Potentially what's happening, correct? 01:48:13.850 --> 01:48:14.210 Thank you. 01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:17.030 I don't know how many clear that it was. 01:48:17.850 --> 01:48:19.630 A question, though I don't know the answer. 01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:21.970 I don't if there's an answer that question cause girls. 01:48:22.520 --> 01:48:38.530 So I've heard from some that like you can get studies done that would like a couple of talents get together and someone is looking at what people are paying currently and what it would cost because I guess that's a big question mark right to to do things in other way. 01:48:38.540 --> 01:48:43.660 And so that you can actually their costs at least to the theoretical manner. 01:48:43.870 --> 01:48:49.080 I don't know if this is what you're getting that one of the interest, one of the things that happens is people. 01:48:51.490 --> 01:49:04.360 Most people general public don't necessarily equate the property tax bill to the services they're receiving, so this is one of the reasons press Kyle has a system that they do. 01:49:04.410 --> 01:49:11.940 People pay for their it's not truly a paper bag, but it's a semi user symptoms. 01:49:12.330 --> 01:49:13.990 But I don't want to get into the details of that. 01:49:15.100 --> 01:49:17.230 People see that and they recognize that. 01:49:17.280 --> 01:49:31.930 So if you say if if we are providing the service and and it's revealing it to tipping fees at the landfill caring for example or fill the Caribou, it goes in their tax, it was in their budget as part of the property tax. 01:49:31.940 --> 01:49:45.230 Nobody sees and I could say, well, we're going to if we reduce our cost because we can get reimbursed from an E PR program, we reduce how much we're charging care bill, the cable, theoretically we produce our tax that isn't gonna happen. 01:49:45.230 --> 01:49:46.410 No, that's OK. 01:49:46.720 --> 01:49:50.890 That could theoretically, theoretically, but people don't see them. 01:49:50.930 --> 01:49:57.050 What they see is I'm paying my garbage Hauler $40 a month to take my trash away. 01:49:57.060 --> 01:49:58.600 They don't really even know what that pains for. 01:49:59.790 --> 01:50:08.870 So I think what you're saying is if you can give people to have a direct correlation to the paying less to change their, they're more likely to change what they're doing. 01:50:10.090 --> 01:50:21.510 I didn't explain that very well, but which is the whole voice of a of a user fee paper bag type system where you know you do this then you could it cost you less. 01:50:23.190 --> 01:50:28.820 So we don't see much that almost almost most of the programs up here are based. 01:50:30.870 --> 01:50:34.550 So for me, it's telling you all about how paper bag works too. 01:50:35.850 --> 01:50:36.100 Yeah. 01:50:36.110 --> 01:50:37.420 Yeah, orange bag. 01:50:37.430 --> 01:50:39.670 Still, seeing that you're still seeing them, don't they? 01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:42.330 They go into the countryside because you could set him iced. 01:50:43.170 --> 01:50:44.900 Back here, all the background dumping. 01:50:45.930 --> 01:50:46.070 Yeah. 01:50:46.190 --> 01:50:47.920 Or Cat's got another minute. 01:50:48.220 --> 01:50:51.180 We're still landfill. 01:50:51.370 --> 01:50:54.890 Yeah, the preschool went it. 01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:56.510 I sorry I annoyed the MRC too. 01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:58.950 Bob Duchene calls me troublesome. 01:50:59.080 --> 01:51:03.090 So one of the suggestions I had is my hands still raised. 01:51:03.100 --> 01:51:03.380 I'm sorry. 01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:04.480 Uh. 01:51:04.820 --> 01:51:12.250 Is that charge people who come to the transfer station by weight instead of per bed? 01:51:13.270 --> 01:51:23.420 OK, the heavy items, food, paint, digital equipment, things like that are going, batteries are going to weigh a lot. 01:51:23.830 --> 01:51:40.480 So if they put it on the scale and they see that they're paying $15 to dump that trash can full of trash out, or they go and they take the food out, they take all the heavy stuff out, they put that in an available and that's the key part is it's gotta be there for them. 01:51:42.510 --> 01:51:42.680 It's. 01:51:40.830 --> 01:51:47.680 They can put the food in food waste in they can put the digital stuff in the digital bin and the recycling and the recycling bin. 01:51:47.870 --> 01:51:59.220 And then they can weigh what exactly they're throwing away, which if it's done right, should basically be paper Styrofoam, those little diapers they put in meat trays and diapers for humans and whatnot. 01:51:59.280 --> 01:52:06.590 So I think that a lot of people resent having to pay for everybody else's wastefulness. 01:52:06.700 --> 01:52:17.830 I know rural Maine does because a lot of the wasteful the waste comes from urban main, not rural Maine, so we need better solutions for rural people and we don't have a lot of money. 01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:33.300 But so if you hit them in the pocketbook when they go to the transfer station and they can reduce their bill and only pay, say, $5 a month to dump their trash, their tax bill doesn't go up and everyone sees what everyone else is throwing away. 01:52:33.530 --> 01:52:37.080 And I'll tell you, peer pressure in the rurals is pretty strong. 01:52:37.440 --> 01:52:47.530 So if people are paying for somebody else to throw their cardboard, they bring home from Hannaford to feed their livestock of the food it collect for free. 01:52:47.620 --> 01:52:55.210 And I'm paying them to dump their cardboard in the in the dump truck rather than taking it to the transfer station to get recycled. 01:52:55.380 --> 01:52:56.810 It's gonna **** me off. 01:52:57.160 --> 01:53:11.740 So I think that you'll get cooperation from people if you enlist the aid of town managers, select men and any other representatives, act activist groups, and the other nonprofit groups to help spread the word. 01:53:12.240 --> 01:53:19.250 And this way I think that people will comply and eventually they'll come around to it. 01:53:19.410 --> 01:53:21.780 We never used to have trash can bags. 01:53:21.790 --> 01:53:24.240 We never used to have plastic bags for everything. 01:53:24.310 --> 01:53:25.540 This is a new thing. 01:53:25.550 --> 01:53:26.820 This is a new habit. 01:53:27.110 --> 01:53:29.840 We are killing ourselves with conveniences. 01:53:32.180 --> 01:53:32.620 Thank you. 01:53:34.120 --> 01:53:34.430 Thank you. 01:53:39.160 --> 01:53:40.590 So it's one other topic. 01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:46.080 If you're looking at getting back to the plan, I guess we've had an interesting discussion, but getting back to the plan and what should be in it. 01:53:47.290 --> 01:53:50.260 Just throw out that four letter word. 01:53:50.270 --> 01:53:53.590 Pee fast probably ought to be at least looked at. 01:53:56.150 --> 01:53:59.190 It I the whole beefs issue. 01:54:00.610 --> 01:54:06.770 Will probably do well as anybody kind of thrust upon all of us is not just us. 01:54:07.320 --> 01:54:07.970 Others ways. 01:54:07.980 --> 01:54:08.890 What are treatment plants? 01:54:08.900 --> 01:54:15.050 Things of that nature without benefit of any type of free planning or foresight, or how are we going to do this? 01:54:16.330 --> 01:54:17.800 This is a five year plan. 01:54:17.810 --> 01:54:24.380 It's an opportunity to be able to at least look at how we going to handle this because it's it's it's gonna end up affecting. 01:54:24.990 --> 01:54:31.940 So it is like mine, probably weightings at some point likely gonna be or potentially good extremely expensive. 01:54:31.950 --> 01:54:33.280 So I just think it's. 01:54:33.330 --> 01:54:40.280 And again, I don't have an answer, but if you're looking for topics that should be planned around, be fast when you want to. 01:54:40.500 --> 01:54:44.480 That I'm putting, it's not you already thought of that or not? 01:54:44.490 --> 01:54:45.850 Definitely the hot topic. 01:54:47.180 --> 01:54:49.300 That's, that's the second thing that scares me to death. 01:54:49.380 --> 01:55:03.880 Other than space by this out to prevent more pee fast from happening like I'm looking at these ragged old Teflon pants that come into our thrift store and Anna like garbage it, you know, or whatever. 01:55:04.100 --> 01:55:08.060 But is there anything now to stop war? 01:55:08.190 --> 01:55:08.660 I mean, what? 01:55:08.670 --> 01:55:08.960 What? 01:55:09.390 --> 01:55:19.750 What on the legislative side, I can't speak to it if there's a ban on most products starting the 2030, but that's essentially that's not take care of what's already trashed, right? 01:55:19.850 --> 01:55:20.340 No. 01:55:20.400 --> 01:55:22.940 Cast iron and the spirit has baby. 01:55:23.780 --> 01:55:24.210 That's. 01:55:25.520 --> 01:55:26.350 Yeah, my kitchen. 01:55:26.500 --> 01:55:29.290 These cats are like which to bamboo. 01:55:29.330 --> 01:55:29.780 That's fine. 01:55:30.110 --> 01:55:31.960 Yeah, they started the cycle. 01:55:31.970 --> 01:55:33.310 That's right, backwards. 01:55:33.320 --> 01:55:43.110 To go forwards I when I see the amount of Teflon cookware I'm not we get and I mean I know teflon's only one piece of it, but it's big piece of light because I see it so much. 01:55:43.280 --> 01:55:44.020 Who is this all? 01:55:45.110 --> 01:55:46.960 All scratched up all mass. 01:55:47.090 --> 01:55:49.220 Thinking wow, somebody was getting out of this thing. 01:55:49.290 --> 01:55:49.640 Yeah. 01:55:49.650 --> 01:55:51.360 And you just throw out the trash. 01:55:51.370 --> 01:55:53.920 You'd be surprised at how many different things have been. 01:55:54.890 --> 01:55:57.710 Ohh I know, I know there's more but like that's in my face. 01:55:57.720 --> 01:56:01.310 Yeah, in the trash or in your metal that you're waiting for someone. 01:56:01.320 --> 01:56:01.760 Yeah. 01:56:01.770 --> 01:56:10.450 Well, you used to go in our mental, but that's not going in our metal so much because that's we already knew that it was bad to eat off Teflon pans when they were scratched up, right? 01:56:10.460 --> 01:56:12.700 We still did it anyway, and now there's Pete boss in it. 01:56:12.710 --> 01:56:13.800 And they're all scratched up. 01:56:14.040 --> 01:56:17.150 Still do it anyway, and but that's what people. 01:56:17.620 --> 01:56:22.870 That's what people know that some people know some people maybe change, but you didn't talk. 01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:28.790 My God got this thing of being Foss shoe waterproofing. 01:56:28.900 --> 01:56:29.390 Yeah. 01:56:29.440 --> 01:56:30.480 What do I do with it? 01:56:31.040 --> 01:56:31.810 I know our. 01:56:31.920 --> 01:56:33.830 Yeah. Take it. 01:56:34.230 --> 01:56:35.720 That's that's the answer. 01:56:35.730 --> 01:57:03.640 It's just so much for being with the clothes and everything, but it's just like when we just keep away until somebody comes up with the the laws passed last year and it's a ban on intentionally added pbos in any product that is manufactured or sold in the state of May and they they just passed kind of a revision of that law to make some of the reporting requirements a little bit more fluid. 01:57:03.650 --> 01:57:28.740 I guess it's a huge debate because obviously the producers and sometimes it's very hard to find what I mean it's 17,000 chemicals you know, so everybody from Toyota to LL Bean to Hannaford to every you know, anybody that puts anything in a jar with their neighborhood or anything that has to know how this stuff is processed, if they get parts from China, if they get, they have to know. 01:57:28.750 --> 01:57:31.290 And so it's arduous process. 01:57:31.540 --> 01:57:41.110 And so 2030, we gotta come in from marking and I think you probably don't think that's something you're scared. 01:57:43.120 --> 01:57:44.880 You you're muted though. 01:57:45.240 --> 01:57:46.390 Can you please? 01:57:47.930 --> 01:57:50.620 Yeah, park your muted. 01:57:52.730 --> 01:57:52.890 Yeah. 01:57:52.440 --> 01:57:53.660 And that you hear me now. 01:57:54.450 --> 01:57:54.950 Yes, Sir. 01:57:55.760 --> 01:57:56.490 OK. 01:57:56.900 --> 01:58:02.750 Well, we're talking about emerging contaminants of concern, especially with my world and organics. 01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:09.800 Yeah. 01:58:02.760 --> 01:58:15.750 The other one that's coming into main like a bull coming through the gate is microplastics and and they're going to be a really, really big issue because they are created by everything. 01:58:16.360 --> 01:58:21.180 And I think that if we can get a handle on that early, we're gonna be much better ahead of the game. 01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:24.920 Thank you. 01:58:24.350 --> 01:58:25.710 And I will unraised my hand. 01:58:26.900 --> 01:58:27.840 I'm depressed. 01:58:27.850 --> 01:58:28.800 That's gonna say that's. 01:58:32.220 --> 01:58:43.430 It's always I will come back to but again, but still like you EP, just recently released the survey of wastewater effluents. 01:58:45.660 --> 01:58:50.180 Yesterday I was like done sampling and whole bunch of slides. 01:58:54.620 --> 01:59:02.410 On the higher results it's it's seems to be facilities with Lee Jayden them sadly change, right? 01:59:02.420 --> 01:59:03.110 I'd be bossy. 01:59:05.110 --> 01:59:06.480 Had to get her arms around that too. 01:59:06.590 --> 01:59:09.720 You to be. 01:59:09.850 --> 01:59:18.750 It's pretty strong stuff too, and you know the treatment plants can treat leachate 2 degrees where you know they can take out the high DoD. 01:59:18.760 --> 01:59:23.370 And we can get the little chonky fire shot and always come out for us. 01:59:23.380 --> 01:59:25.590 Just sleeps all through because it's slippery. 01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:26.210 Heats up. 01:59:27.280 --> 01:59:29.410 That's that's gonna be a problem, then. 01:59:29.420 --> 01:59:29.930 Very true. 01:59:31.470 --> 01:59:31.690 It's. 01:59:32.370 --> 01:59:38.020 But you know, I I think I old enough to remember when dioxin was diagnosed. 01:59:38.030 --> 01:59:45.450 The entire world and you know, we was amazing to me how quickly we got her arms around it. 01:59:45.460 --> 01:59:46.450 And got rid of it. 01:59:46.670 --> 01:59:47.290 He did. 01:59:47.480 --> 01:59:52.720 And you know, it was like 5 years later, that was the end of sledge lands spreading. 01:59:52.730 --> 01:59:54.090 I remember it was. 01:59:54.930 --> 02:00:00.180 No, I was hired to go around and chase backyard dumps after we shut down all the landfills. 02:00:00.190 --> 02:00:08.380 That was my first job at the climbing down over banks, ripping bags open and calling people saying hey, sorry still in your trash. 02:00:10.760 --> 02:00:11.220 Wait, do you? 02:00:13.240 --> 02:00:14.890 40 years later, you're still doing it. 02:00:14.900 --> 02:00:16.790 I'm a lot of progress. 02:00:16.800 --> 02:00:17.440 They understand. 02:00:18.570 --> 02:00:25.080 I I I gotta throw that little bit of optimism here that we're gonna get our focus and crisis. 02:00:25.090 --> 02:00:39.620 It's been a long, slow roll like can remember people going in the like Mark did microplastics 10 years ago, saying P Foss write that down and you know, and then I kept hearing it a little bit. 02:00:39.630 --> 02:00:42.680 These wastewater conventions and hey, this thing's coming, this guy. 02:00:42.690 --> 02:00:45.960 And then you know just right next door in New Hampshire, the world was blowing up. 02:00:46.960 --> 02:00:50.830 We've had the Peace Air Force Base and people were freaking out. 02:00:50.840 --> 02:00:53.120 Now it's like in Maine. 02:00:53.130 --> 02:00:56.810 We were like, we're a little too bad about New Hampshire. 02:00:58.490 --> 02:01:03.410 It it came to us, but I think we can like, look come around this. 02:01:04.200 --> 02:01:10.990 Manufacturers are, yeah, they are making new chemicals, renaming the big ones that we're fighting with are. 02:01:13.330 --> 02:01:17.180 Slowing down production and not appearing so much. Uh. 02:01:19.410 --> 02:01:19.750 We'll see. 02:01:20.660 --> 02:01:25.210 Seem to be so part of it since I was five year plan is too. 02:01:25.220 --> 02:01:26.060 I think it's important. 02:01:26.280 --> 02:01:28.530 Is problems that into the. 02:01:28.600 --> 02:01:29.100 Yeah. 02:01:29.140 --> 02:01:30.070 Yeah, you have to. 02:01:30.120 --> 02:01:32.630 And also I can promise you, yeah, that's what you. 02:01:32.770 --> 02:01:37.530 Yeah, USGS found active pharmaceutical science. 02:01:37.540 --> 02:01:43.190 It's slightly slightly don't break down and just keep the stuff. 02:01:43.240 --> 02:01:44.320 I think we'll probably we'll. 02:01:46.110 --> 02:01:50.300 Yeah, nobody would ever dumped there. 02:01:50.790 --> 02:01:53.660 No, they're they're leftover drugs down the toilet with. 02:01:53.670 --> 02:01:55.000 No, no more. 02:01:55.010 --> 02:02:04.340 So for a while though, and tell them that you are and people do that there's people are still folks to do that by the federal government and you still see it on TV. 02:02:04.350 --> 02:02:05.520 All crazy. 02:02:06.180 --> 02:02:06.910 Yeah, it's. 02:02:12.030 --> 02:02:17.400 He's shift a little bit and talk about someone's higher up the hierarchy stuff. 02:02:17.410 --> 02:02:34.090 I mean, we sort of this some talking points together, but thinking about reducing waste, what are some ways for opportunities like we think about refillable supremacy that more urban areas you've had some you know they'll find. 02:02:34.430 --> 02:02:35.290 Ohh made a comment. 02:02:38.010 --> 02:02:38.330 Thank you. 02:02:47.790 --> 02:02:48.860 Brian, you're on. 02:02:49.430 --> 02:02:50.140 You're muted too. 02:02:52.400 --> 02:02:53.130 There we go. 02:02:52.830 --> 02:02:53.440 They come here. 02:02:53.140 --> 02:02:53.730 Well, thank. 02:02:53.920 --> 02:02:55.190 Well, thank you for having me. 02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:57.540 I just want to see where this could fit. 02:02:57.550 --> 02:03:03.970 I thought this be a good segue so that I would ask my question here so I'm not really here to provide input, just a question so little bit of background. 02:03:03.980 --> 02:03:05.350 My name is Brian Pontius. 02:03:05.860 --> 02:03:18.150 I'm with Ingevity, which is based in North Charleston, SC, and so one of the businesses were in is compostable plastics and so that's the question I wanted to bring up and see what folks thoughts about it were in the room. 02:03:18.160 --> 02:03:24.240 And so when it comes to supporting organic recycling and reducing waste, I just was curious there. 02:03:24.250 --> 02:03:31.270 Any thoughts in the room about encouraging, particularly that comes to single use plastics encouraging to postable plastics instead? 02:03:32.190 --> 02:03:33.970 And what thoughts and remember about that? 02:03:33.980 --> 02:03:40.900 As far as its ability to reduce waste and also to help organic recyclers get more food to the compost. 02:03:40.970 --> 02:03:41.990 So that's my question. 02:03:44.950 --> 02:03:46.230 I surprise marching. 02:03:46.580 --> 02:03:58.970 The only color that's taking organics out of commercial kind of larger scale, nor can speak to this much better, but they're actually not taking any compostable plastics because of the contamination issues right now. 02:04:00.260 --> 02:04:01.530 Can you talk to that a little bit? 02:04:03.630 --> 02:04:06.220 It's thought he's caught away from his computer men. 02:04:06.470 --> 02:04:10.490 Ohh no alright, maybe spend more comes back. 02:04:10.500 --> 02:04:11.890 We're gonna talk. 02:04:12.020 --> 02:04:14.070 We should address that we should address that. 02:04:15.020 --> 02:04:20.900 Isn't part of it, though that you can discern between about postable and not part of. 02:04:20.910 --> 02:04:22.410 There is definitely part of that. 02:04:24.700 --> 02:04:25.330 You're on. 02:04:28.080 --> 02:04:28.650 Alright. 02:04:25.640 --> 02:04:30.040 Iran, Martin and you mean and nice. 02:04:30.650 --> 02:04:31.060 Yeah. 02:04:31.070 --> 02:04:31.980 Thank you. 02:04:32.290 --> 02:04:58.700 We we have real concerns given that the industry has already stated that a lot of the compostable items contained potential PFAS contaminants, but even more so, the research that I've done using compostable plastics, especially in leaf and yard systems where I've hit the 160 degrees for six weeks, I find that the the utensils and cups only get deformed. 02:04:58.710 --> 02:05:08.350 They don't break down completely and what does breakdown possibly leaves behind Ghost Plastics, which are considered almost as bad as microplastics. 02:05:08.670 --> 02:05:10.470 So we're just not in favor of it. 02:05:10.480 --> 02:05:27.470 And what we're promoting around the state for food composting is that people need to only use organics pre and post consumer without any contaminants, and that even includes paper plates and napkins because the P fast content of a lot of these items as you have to be determined. 02:05:29.770 --> 02:05:30.500 And teabags? 02:05:30.510 --> 02:05:31.030 Is that right? 02:05:31.040 --> 02:05:32.490 Mark teabags from microplastics. 02:05:31.800 --> 02:05:33.250 Yeah, yeah, Yep. 02:05:33.300 --> 02:05:39.330 Same unfortunately, and the Keurig cups, they go without saying. 02:05:39.620 --> 02:05:45.570 However, the ones that have the the container that you can actually refill the coffee, that's fine. 02:05:45.620 --> 02:05:52.290 So not not to put in the compost, but the grounds that come out of that, because those are are found to not have PFAS in them. 02:05:52.300 --> 02:06:00.090 So we're just trying to be cautious and careful because community based composting is one of the huge pushes for the department going forward. 02:06:00.460 --> 02:06:07.320 There's lots of groups that are trying to do a landfill band statewide which where way behind the 8 ball in that and need to catch up a bit. 02:06:07.770 --> 02:06:16.080 But as far as community based composting, we're just pushing straight organics as best we can until we know more about these compostable items. 02:06:16.450 --> 02:06:21.220 And just my research that I've done with the bags and others is that they just don't fully break down. 02:06:21.390 --> 02:06:23.590 So they leave behind contaminants and the finished compost. 02:06:27.200 --> 02:06:31.490 And there's nobody in Maine currently accepting those right, is that correct? 02:06:31.320 --> 02:06:31.980 There are. 02:06:31.990 --> 02:06:40.610 There are three facilities in Maine that currently accept all plastics and compostable items Exeter, Agra, cycle. 02:06:40.940 --> 02:06:43.680 They they take the contaminated waste stream in their department. 02:06:43.690 --> 02:06:51.650 They have packager and then what they pull out of the contaminated stream goes to eco main in this combusted for waste to energy. 02:06:51.960 --> 02:06:53.970 But we also have two composters. 02:06:53.980 --> 02:06:54.650 One is Mr. 02:06:54.660 --> 02:06:57.750 Fox in Berwick, South, Berwick, ME. 02:06:57.760 --> 02:07:01.860 He takes contaminated material and then sort of screens it and hand pulls it out. 02:07:02.360 --> 02:07:15.170 And then the other facility is we composted also known as MB, Bark and Auburn, where they take in a contaminated stream as well and they end up screening it like half a dozen times to try and move the visible plastic. 02:07:15.180 --> 02:07:21.210 But the concern is that as you're screening it, you break down those plastic particles and you know what? 02:07:21.220 --> 02:07:22.630 What remains in the finished compost? 02:07:24.680 --> 02:07:26.320 And no one's actually composing it. 02:07:26.330 --> 02:07:29.150 They're just, they're just separated, you know, before around. 02:07:28.480 --> 02:07:30.030 They're separating it out, correct? 02:07:30.120 --> 02:07:30.450 Correct. 02:07:30.460 --> 02:07:31.860 It's it's considered a contaminant. 02:07:33.060 --> 02:07:33.860 Still considering. 02:07:34.060 --> 02:07:34.700 Thanks, mark. 02:07:35.180 --> 02:07:35.300 Yes. 02:07:34.740 --> 02:07:36.150 Brian got another topic. 02:07:44.060 --> 02:07:46.060 They don't know Brian you. 02:07:45.290 --> 02:07:51.220 Just just very quickly, yeah, I just, I wanted to, I want to thank Mark for his comment and I think I will try to fight with him offline. 02:07:51.410 --> 02:07:53.720 I just would add, I mean, yeah, I mean, he's absolutely right. 02:07:53.730 --> 02:08:04.720 I mean, it's definitely a big issue with products being sold that say they're compostable and not meeting the right standards like from BPI or another third party certification. 02:08:04.730 --> 02:08:08.100 And so we're definitely aware of that, definitely understand that concern. 02:08:08.330 --> 02:08:15.960 I just would add in states like California, they've passed some pretty aggressive labeling laws so that you sell a compostable item. 02:08:16.540 --> 02:08:18.490 You know they can't contain PFAS. 02:08:18.600 --> 02:08:19.550 It can't contain. 02:08:19.560 --> 02:08:21.270 It has to be third party certified. 02:08:21.780 --> 02:08:22.850 You know things like that. 02:08:22.860 --> 02:08:27.480 So like I said, I mean, I definitely like to chat with Mark offline and I just stick this for the group. 02:08:27.490 --> 02:08:30.570 You know, I think it's there are some solutions to that problem. 02:08:30.940 --> 02:08:34.350 But yeah, I mean, I definitely get his concerns and I appreciate him raising them. 02:08:34.440 --> 02:08:35.180 So thank you. 02:08:35.870 --> 02:08:36.270 Thank you. 02:08:36.180 --> 02:08:37.290 They cheated. 02:08:37.440 --> 02:08:39.190 Brian, you're not Brian Beneski. 02:08:40.280 --> 02:08:40.830 Sure. 02:08:41.160 --> 02:08:42.250 So I mean, I'm just. 02:08:42.260 --> 02:08:59.790 I'm gonna throw out too, the, you know, with the the idea of the fact that if we, you know, we with compostable items versus single use items that then does add more complication to the stream because you know then people need to worry about. 02:09:00.020 --> 02:09:05.470 Ohh is this pork a plastic looking fork that's compostable or is it not? 02:09:05.480 --> 02:09:06.790 And and again it's. 02:09:06.880 --> 02:09:20.970 I mean, I think for me, I think one of our goals should be to try and simplify this way stream and recycling so that it's easy and it's what's one of the to so to adding. 02:09:23.820 --> 02:09:26.490 Compostable quote plastic with regular plastic. 02:09:26.500 --> 02:09:31.010 Again, kind of it complicates the recycling stream and I'll. 02:09:31.980 --> 02:09:32.710 Yeah, stop there. 02:09:34.850 --> 02:09:35.330 Thanks Brendan. 02:09:37.760 --> 02:09:39.890 Think you would asked about reuse, right? Yeah. 02:09:39.930 --> 02:09:40.710 So actually I think. 02:09:42.620 --> 02:09:43.270 Introduction. 02:09:43.280 --> 02:09:50.550 Story this guy that's doing you fillable type thing I've got can't remember the name of this right next to the right. 02:09:50.560 --> 02:09:52.260 Greater right downtown, right? 02:09:52.270 --> 02:09:52.890 Yeah. 02:09:52.900 --> 02:09:55.200 Yeah, it's right next to shampoo thing like that. 02:09:55.260 --> 02:09:56.040 I've got stories. 02:09:56.250 --> 02:09:59.750 Yes, that called, you know John, really very next to it too. 02:10:00.030 --> 02:10:01.640 I'm just grocery store. 02:10:01.770 --> 02:10:04.500 No, it's not very small shop. 02:10:04.510 --> 02:10:10.680 I think small things like yeah, so shampoos and lotions. 02:10:10.740 --> 02:10:13.010 You bring your own containers yourself. OK. 02:10:13.020 --> 02:10:13.490 Yeah. 02:10:13.880 --> 02:10:15.630 That she does things. 02:10:15.700 --> 02:10:17.270 Yeah, she does some other things too. 02:10:17.500 --> 02:10:19.100 That's very exciting work. 02:10:19.110 --> 02:10:19.910 What's the place? 02:10:19.920 --> 02:10:21.630 Yeah, it's not global refill. 02:10:22.550 --> 02:10:24.510 The same products go refill. 02:10:25.360 --> 02:10:27.480 Well, that's not it, but that's about what it means. 02:10:27.490 --> 02:10:28.750 Yeah, it is. 02:10:28.760 --> 02:10:31.950 I think it's a I think it's a chain of some sort. 02:10:32.000 --> 02:10:37.600 I think she has a franchise, but but it's right beside the grading theater downtown, right on Main Street. 02:10:37.700 --> 02:10:39.900 Just a little sliver of up there. 02:10:39.910 --> 02:10:43.810 This, but it's something something like that, right? 02:10:43.830 --> 02:10:44.760 Their own jug? 02:10:45.250 --> 02:10:51.090 Probably the biggest example would reuse or Mr County, and fixing for exception research. 02:10:51.140 --> 02:10:56.670 It's my wife, said the garage sale this weekend while I go fishing, by the way. 02:10:56.740 --> 02:10:57.920 And that's what I've already said. 02:10:57.930 --> 02:11:01.050 She's called your organs and whatever's left, it's going. 02:11:01.060 --> 02:11:02.390 It's going one way or another. 02:11:02.440 --> 02:11:06.760 It's either going with me to work or it's going it's organization. 02:11:07.000 --> 02:11:07.550 I'll tell you what. 02:11:07.560 --> 02:11:13.210 When we bring a truck to somebody's grade after they've had a sale, their husband just loves us. 02:11:13.220 --> 02:11:15.500 He's like ohh, I'm so happy to see you. 02:11:15.830 --> 02:11:18.960 What man can you come before? 02:11:18.970 --> 02:11:20.440 Yeah, right. 02:11:21.510 --> 02:11:21.670 This. 02:11:21.850 --> 02:11:22.320 Yes, sorry. 02:11:22.330 --> 02:11:23.380 You're saying that like, right? 02:11:23.640 --> 02:11:25.210 Yeah, but nice. 02:11:25.280 --> 02:11:46.230 It's huge with that pricing or thrift store type stuff going on, it's huge a lot because we take everything that's still has some use in it, probably stuff that doesn't because again like it would be recycled metal, metal mean that was like exercise equipment and all kinds of heavy things. 02:11:46.240 --> 02:11:50.170 And bed rails and pots and pans. 02:11:51.530 --> 02:11:52.220 How stirs you? 02:11:52.230 --> 02:11:52.780 Name it. 02:11:52.920 --> 02:11:57.540 It's other reasons I didn't know what one of the reasons I never started in the second time around. Shot. 02:11:57.600 --> 02:11:59.980 Yeah, I've not competing with no way. 02:12:00.030 --> 02:12:04.490 No way should come burn it down, you know. 02:12:04.500 --> 02:12:05.430 But we didn't need to. 02:12:05.520 --> 02:12:06.950 It's already being done today. 02:12:07.180 --> 02:12:12.520 I think since you've got three stores, 4 now with the mall malls open this weekend, thank goodness. 02:12:13.790 --> 02:12:16.420 Ah yeah, four or stores. 02:12:16.430 --> 02:12:25.680 Generosity county and we travel all over the county to pick stuff up from 3 Golden State. 02:12:25.690 --> 02:12:26.210 It's great. 02:12:28.440 --> 02:12:30.970 Do you guys have people that can fix things like the repair? 02:12:31.050 --> 02:12:40.020 Now we have monsters that testers, but it now we have lucky we could get it picked up and hauled in that on 1/4 Store 4. 02:12:40.030 --> 02:12:49.420 But many people do just as the lady up there said about going to the dump and grabbing a chair and bringing it home and reholstering, they're looking for that kind of thing. 02:12:49.670 --> 02:12:59.210 You know, a lot of people come to our stores and you'll have some radial chair or something, and they will take it home and make it into something beautiful and send us a picture. 02:12:59.220 --> 02:13:02.530 So it's really, you know, it's so so that repurposing one thought. 02:13:02.540 --> 02:13:05.240 So it doesn't matter that it's not in great shape. 02:13:05.250 --> 02:13:06.730 Sometimes they'll take it. 02:13:06.780 --> 02:13:07.630 Take it apart. 02:13:08.100 --> 02:13:18.210 Make it their own with the the Frankensteined furniture movement is, you know, like kind of happening, where people actually go there, they buy it for 399 and they sell it for $399. 02:13:18.220 --> 02:13:20.770 You know, I've sold the same couch four times. 02:13:22.490 --> 02:13:25.670 I'm afraid that's no, yeah. More dollars. 02:13:25.930 --> 02:13:27.820 Wow, $10. 02:13:29.110 --> 02:13:29.800 Gonna go up. 02:13:32.790 --> 02:13:35.810 That's, I mean, like you're the better it seems. 02:13:35.850 --> 02:13:39.160 I don't know a different approach for you. 02:13:39.170 --> 02:13:40.070 Every time we sell it. 02:13:40.080 --> 02:13:41.230 Oh, that's the same logic. 02:13:42.510 --> 02:13:42.970 No way. 02:13:43.010 --> 02:13:43.750 It's two of those. 02:13:47.600 --> 02:14:01.850 We have everything, everything from and I was just noticing on this recycling which can now build the channels we recycle building materials, you know windows and doors and pieces of board that are leftover people come in and get that to make wraps up or whatever. 02:14:01.860 --> 02:14:06.050 So we have a we're setting up our building materials section right now down in Monticello. 02:14:06.060 --> 02:14:10.120 It's once the campers and the boats, the trailers get out for the winner, we open it up the building materials. 02:14:12.810 --> 02:14:16.210 Didn't collect much from the university when it empties out, we collect. 02:14:16.280 --> 02:14:18.610 Actually, Bates College is one of our best. 02:14:19.930 --> 02:14:20.640 Will they? 02:14:20.700 --> 02:14:21.440 We are there. 02:14:21.450 --> 02:14:22.480 Go to people. 02:14:22.610 --> 02:14:25.220 Why people like us is because we take it. 02:14:25.230 --> 02:14:26.200 All right. 02:14:26.210 --> 02:14:29.660 We don't say we'll take five or four or three or six. 02:14:29.670 --> 02:14:40.750 We take it all so that that happens, but but the other thing that's happening that I don't think people realize is we are on route one in Monticello. 02:14:42.110 --> 02:14:44.980 If I can't make a living up here, I'm gonna tollgates. 02:14:44.990 --> 02:14:48.280 Everybody's gonna go buy our store down there myself. 02:14:48.410 --> 02:15:00.480 Can't get here from there because out coming through my little toe game like put one up but every single trap that's coming up from wherever to go anywhere in a rustic county to load has to go by us. 02:15:01.100 --> 02:15:13.230 So we have called constantly from brokers and truckers and the relationships that I've built over the last 37 years, I got 4 pallets of tomatoes on and the top two layers are crushed. 02:15:13.240 --> 02:15:13.750 You want them? 02:15:13.760 --> 02:15:13.910 Yes. 02:15:15.110 --> 02:15:21.920 So we take all that food and anything that's not edible and pig farmer comes and gets it. 02:15:22.130 --> 02:15:34.020 So we get all kinds of destroyed, if you will not marketable food anymore because it fell over because somebody swerved and not hit a deer or whatever the case may be. 02:15:34.070 --> 02:15:41.480 So I have truck drivers called me for anything from, you know, 10 cases of tortillas to 40. 02:15:41.910 --> 02:15:42.300 What? 02:15:42.310 --> 02:15:42.560 What? 02:15:42.570 --> 02:15:43.020 What? What? 02:15:43.030 --> 02:15:46.640 I get what time £36,800 of vehicles it took them all. 02:15:48.370 --> 02:15:51.500 That gives the pool hot. Good. 02:15:51.510 --> 02:15:51.960 Yeah. 02:15:52.030 --> 02:15:53.630 Some of them were like gallon buckets. 02:15:53.640 --> 02:15:59.650 There was people running all over Bristol County 5 balance gallon, buckets of Pickles, little ladies dragging them over. 02:15:59.860 --> 02:16:00.130 No. 02:16:01.200 --> 02:16:01.890 Yeah. 02:16:02.400 --> 02:16:03.480 So we take it off. 02:16:03.490 --> 02:16:04.190 So that's a lot. 02:16:04.200 --> 02:16:07.920 You know, we don't even count that as recycling, but that stuff. 02:16:08.140 --> 02:16:09.550 You better. That's reuse. 02:16:09.560 --> 02:16:15.570 Yeah, truck drivers would say I was going to have to dump it and we're on the border. 02:16:15.580 --> 02:16:28.070 So that's another little plus if they can't take it across the border, they bring it to us because sometimes they just can't take something across, don't have the, you know, I had a guy who brought potatoes. 02:16:28.080 --> 02:16:29.810 Prince Edward Island went somewhere. 02:16:30.180 --> 02:16:36.150 She was coming back and couldn't bring his Canadian potatoes back across the border, so I got. 02:16:38.750 --> 02:16:41.160 So where you know location, location, location. 02:16:41.170 --> 02:16:45.150 We're perfect in Monticello and we got local box freezers, coolers and all of that. 02:16:45.160 --> 02:16:46.860 So we can take anything and all of it. 02:16:47.250 --> 02:16:49.900 So I'm just telling the world that everybody's getting anything. 02:16:49.910 --> 02:16:50.920 I'll take it all of it. 02:16:54.290 --> 02:16:55.100 How did you get started? 02:16:56.550 --> 02:17:03.800 Ohh Lord, have mercy because it was it was how I got started was desperation. 02:17:04.850 --> 02:17:06.900 Our mission is to feed the hungry. 02:17:07.010 --> 02:17:09.840 We have a food bank in cardboard, a food bank in Monticello. 02:17:09.850 --> 02:17:14.560 Now we used to have just one in in in here it's a food bank. 02:17:14.690 --> 02:17:18.530 We do not receive federal and state funds to operate our food bank. 02:17:19.470 --> 02:17:27.040 We have to be sustainable or we're not here, so I used to have a when I inherited the project first there was a building materials back. 02:17:27.050 --> 02:17:33.840 They used to tear down buildings like Loring Air Force Base, tearing apart, dragged the stuff back and sell it to before for $0.30. 02:17:33.850 --> 02:17:40.750 After we worked on it for 3 1/2 days and I was like man, it's a lot of work. 02:17:40.760 --> 02:17:50.480 But one day, when an old man came in to see if I had an old, sick or something that we had, he said my wife had a sale this weekend, I got a box of stuff in my trunk. 02:17:50.490 --> 02:17:51.120 You want it? 02:17:51.420 --> 02:17:52.580 I said sure. I'll take it. 02:17:53.040 --> 02:17:55.000 There's a box of knickknacks and doodads. 02:17:55.010 --> 02:17:57.980 Set it on a picnic table, stuck it out there for $0.10 a piece. 02:17:57.990 --> 02:17:59.720 It was gone the next day. 02:17:59.890 --> 02:18:03.400 I said now that's sustainable and I didn't have to pull the nails on them. 02:18:04.800 --> 02:18:17.950 Now that was where that start and that's how and I didn't tell anybody and I didn't ask anybody and all of a sudden down to our central office in Portland, they're like, we're all this money coming from what are you selling up there? 02:18:17.960 --> 02:18:19.300 What are the border? 02:18:20.700 --> 02:18:21.260 You know what? 02:18:21.270 --> 02:18:24.380 They're rejecting in the order colors and sleep with. 02:18:24.820 --> 02:18:28.470 That I didn't know what I was doing. 02:18:28.480 --> 02:18:30.050 I did not know what I was doing. 02:18:30.060 --> 02:18:34.430 I just knew I gotta have some money so I can feed folks, and this is how we do it. 02:18:34.720 --> 02:18:39.500 It is a fact that we get federal money from FEMA, but you can only buy food with it. 02:18:39.610 --> 02:18:40.790 So you can't. 02:18:40.800 --> 02:18:43.460 You can't just get food and said that outside. 02:18:43.470 --> 02:18:44.870 It's gotta have infrastructure. 02:18:44.880 --> 02:18:46.620 We've got wonderful infrastructure. 02:18:46.630 --> 02:18:49.560 Now it's taking a long time to build it and get it, but we've got it. 02:18:49.870 --> 02:18:52.560 The grant writing and hard work, a lot of crying. 02:18:52.570 --> 02:18:53.520 It's got it. 02:18:53.730 --> 02:18:54.540 It anyway. 02:18:54.730 --> 02:18:56.340 That's that's why. 02:18:56.450 --> 02:18:57.720 So I set up people. 02:18:57.790 --> 02:18:59.320 Our mission is to feed people. 02:18:59.450 --> 02:19:01.550 We sell stuff to do that. 02:19:01.950 --> 02:19:03.800 A lot of people say, well, your account, the cheers. 02:19:03.810 --> 02:19:04.760 You've gotta help messing. 02:19:04.770 --> 02:19:05.150 I don't. 02:19:06.360 --> 02:19:14.520 My mission to speed people if I give you that couch, I can't feed people, so I'll say that couch for 10 bucks, and if you bring it back, I'll sell it to you again. 02:19:17.120 --> 02:19:19.170 Are your neighbors probably half the stuff you bought? 02:19:19.180 --> 02:19:20.980 My wife garage sale came from New York. 02:19:21.070 --> 02:19:21.330 No. 02:19:22.150 --> 02:19:27.000 Well, we just picked up a lady, passed away, and Marcel and John went to pick it up. 02:19:27.060 --> 02:19:36.530 And John says, do we have any use for about 150 to 200 ceramics horses, dolls and chills, I said. 02:19:36.540 --> 02:19:38.810 Ohh yeah, we have plenty to buy, Jill says. 02:19:38.980 --> 02:19:42.340 The lady that just passed away bought the bottom. 02:19:42.700 --> 02:19:45.070 She bought them all the time and bought another old lady. 02:19:46.330 --> 02:19:47.560 Do you see possibilities? 02:19:50.930 --> 02:19:51.210 Is there? 02:19:51.970 --> 02:19:52.590 What's that? 02:19:52.660 --> 02:19:54.410 You see possibilities of expansion. 02:19:55.400 --> 02:20:03.160 We have been expanding since the day I breathe my first breath at Catholic Charities started out with just a very few pantries. 02:20:03.720 --> 02:20:07.250 Started out with one little warehouse and now we are. 02:20:08.120 --> 02:20:16.600 Uh, warehouse and Caribou, or warehouse amount to settle that recycles the textiles as well, but I would. 02:20:16.650 --> 02:20:27.000 I really have a passion for Washington County and I every time I meet with or talk with or discuss anything with Washington County, I think you guys just thinking way too team. 02:20:27.900 --> 02:20:29.980 You gotta think a lot bigger than that. 02:20:30.310 --> 02:20:32.240 And that's what happened with me. 02:20:32.250 --> 02:20:37.940 I had big ideas, big visions, and now we're in pretty good shape here in the county. 02:20:38.130 --> 02:20:40.500 It's time to move on to Washington County. 02:20:40.510 --> 02:20:42.610 Maybe they really need help in Washington County. 02:20:42.640 --> 02:20:42.950 Don't know. 02:20:42.960 --> 02:20:44.350 Maybe you're from that area or whatever. 02:20:44.590 --> 02:20:50.770 Yeah, they really need help because there's a lot of need there and that I share anything I can with them. 02:20:50.780 --> 02:20:51.590 I've got connections. 02:20:51.600 --> 02:20:52.910 There, I say, come on up. 02:20:53.220 --> 02:20:55.540 We pick up pineland potatoes every week. 02:20:56.740 --> 02:21:03.870 Those are such a wonderful, wonderful thing for anybody to make a quick meal, you know, it's easy peasy. 02:21:03.920 --> 02:21:04.690 Open the back. 02:21:04.700 --> 02:21:08.570 Squirt it in the microwave and you get you got supper and. 02:21:08.580 --> 02:21:13.190 And older people love that because you don't have to peel it or any of that stuff. 02:21:13.230 --> 02:21:16.570 So Washington County doesn't get a lot of potato products. 02:21:17.490 --> 02:21:21.060 So I went down to Washington County summer before last. 02:21:21.070 --> 02:21:21.660 It was. 02:21:21.890 --> 02:21:28.470 I had a whole bunch of potato, but I had French fries at the time for my Canes had a whole bunch of French fries born. 02:21:28.480 --> 02:21:30.700 I could both handle, but I got two rivers. 02:21:30.710 --> 02:21:35.620 If I have something come in about a surprise, we just fire up wherever it can be, a freezer or a cooler. 02:21:35.630 --> 02:21:38.360 Whatever you need or a dry box, so I always have space. 02:21:38.730 --> 02:21:45.410 So we had all these French fries and then we had a whole bunch of catch. 02:21:47.010 --> 02:21:49.440 So I said we'll bring it to you. 02:21:49.450 --> 02:21:51.950 I got so much, I'll bring it to you and I wanna see your facilities. 02:21:52.780 --> 02:21:53.750 So I went to. 02:21:53.980 --> 02:21:56.860 I went to callous and then to a big flu bed. 02:21:56.870 --> 02:21:57.890 Then I went to my chias. 02:21:58.060 --> 02:22:03.110 When I got to Machias, they were all excited and through there and now I'm loaded. 02:22:03.120 --> 02:22:13.620 Potatoes are are French fries and catch and then they said to me any chance you'd want a pallet of clam chowder office? 02:22:13.630 --> 02:22:15.040 Sure, they said. 02:22:15.270 --> 02:22:16.100 Gonna say blueberry? 02:22:16.110 --> 02:22:23.640 Yeah, I know they said she bought a pallet of clam chowder and I said sure, they said we got an extra pallet of clam chowder. 02:22:23.650 --> 02:22:26.330 People here beginning some box that people are like, you know? 02:22:26.370 --> 02:22:29.180 So I said sure, I'll take that, load it on the truck. 02:22:29.370 --> 02:22:35.180 Then one of the ladies comes running and she says any chance you'd wanna paleta tampons? 02:22:35.550 --> 02:22:37.180 No, I said. 02:22:37.590 --> 02:22:37.960 Sure. 02:22:37.970 --> 02:22:38.900 I'll take those. 02:22:39.080 --> 02:22:40.280 So put them on the truck. 02:22:41.440 --> 02:22:52.790 So one of the women says when they're get done unloading my tracking number shows lisa.com and they should cabbage and French fries, I said, were you talking about because you tablecloths and that's why I'm chowder. Yeah. 02:22:56.960 --> 02:23:00.420 Are those on Catholic charities locations that you're talking about? 02:23:00.430 --> 02:23:02.000 Are those just in Washington County? 02:23:02.010 --> 02:23:02.360 Yeah. 02:23:02.410 --> 02:23:06.030 No, those cousin does not have a presence in Washington County anymore. 02:23:06.040 --> 02:23:08.000 We used to have a homemaker program down there. 02:23:08.010 --> 02:23:14.500 We used to have a jail diversion program down there and much highest callous, but I don't even know if we have any kind of presence there. 02:23:14.510 --> 02:23:19.640 Now, as far as I know, Catholic Charities has 26 different programs and I'm just one little tiny one up here. 02:23:20.130 --> 02:23:24.430 I'm just loud erase for our side. 02:23:27.400 --> 02:23:31.730 But I would love to see what you know, and I've reached out to them and we're working in the talks. 02:23:31.740 --> 02:23:32.560 I just haven't had time. 02:23:32.570 --> 02:23:33.760 I'm in the middle of the big fundraiser. 02:23:33.780 --> 02:23:50.920 We're gonna raise up the Spud Speedway July 2nd pass race anyway, so I've been busy with that right now, but it looks like the data how to start working on and I got John, now who's gonna, who's been on for about a year helping out because I really wanna expand into Washington County. 02:23:51.010 --> 02:23:52.820 And I don't want to step on any toes. 02:23:52.830 --> 02:23:56.070 I wanna partner with them and see what they want, what they need, but I need. 02:23:56.080 --> 02:23:56.830 They need help. 02:23:58.500 --> 02:23:59.910 So do you think there's a way? 02:23:59.920 --> 02:24:02.910 So we got too many potatoes. 02:24:02.920 --> 02:24:06.880 We got maybe we got a bunch of wood that we don't need. 02:24:08.170 --> 02:24:17.260 We do that every day mechanism for like like an Uncle Henry, an Uncle Henry's, but like a like a Facebook marketplace. 02:24:17.350 --> 02:24:21.180 There you go, you go to Facebook marketplace, you got on the full Henrys, you got Craigslist. 02:24:22.330 --> 02:24:25.500 Is that the best way for this stuff to move is is there a? 02:24:25.550 --> 02:24:26.540 Would there be? 02:24:27.100 --> 02:24:30.750 All I know is that central location or is it be nice? 02:24:30.760 --> 02:24:33.560 Probably would be nice course, Good Shepherd food back. 02:24:33.570 --> 02:24:38.830 We also partner with Good Shepherd Food Bank, but we do our own thing outside and excluding them as well. 02:24:39.770 --> 02:24:44.840 But there are trying to is that kind of thing within the food banking world. 02:24:44.950 --> 02:24:50.360 You know, you've got somebody got their ear to the ground all the time. 02:24:50.430 --> 02:24:52.260 Like I said, good shepherds, huge. 02:24:52.270 --> 02:24:52.860 They're big. 02:24:52.870 --> 02:24:59.030 They do most they do all the state, except I've always pretty much covered a boosted county cause I know it. 02:24:59.040 --> 02:25:00.950 They know it and I share with them. 02:25:01.120 --> 02:25:03.870 Like if I get a truckload of broccoli, I'll see you. 02:25:03.880 --> 02:25:04.900 OK, what can we handle? 02:25:04.910 --> 02:25:13.960 We can handle 4 pallets, the other 16 or 18 pallets will just let Good Shepherd know they'll come in, they take it to Good Shepherd and get it out to the state. 02:25:14.320 --> 02:25:16.580 So there's kind of that thing going on. 02:25:16.670 --> 02:25:26.300 I've even worked with New Hampshire, the Food Bank in Manchester, NH is a feeding America site, but it's also Catholic charities New Hampshire. 02:25:26.370 --> 02:25:29.160 So I have friends there, so hook them up with it. 02:25:29.170 --> 02:25:39.920 I just worked a relationship with the Veterans Alliance, our federal federal group, out of DC, A guy that graduated from Frisco High School wanted to help veterans. 02:25:40.730 --> 02:25:42.690 So he hooked me up with another food bank. 02:25:42.900 --> 02:25:46.910 Then doing some things with out of Manchester, CT now. 02:25:48.070 --> 02:25:50.660 But it's a big network. 02:25:50.770 --> 02:25:51.360 It's just. 02:25:51.410 --> 02:25:59.940 No, I don't know the page like that, but we all know each other and that's why he's on board trading with me the next year and a half to two years. 02:25:59.950 --> 02:26:05.270 He's been a lot for a year to help understand all those connections. 02:26:05.280 --> 02:26:07.350 Informal, informal network. 02:26:08.100 --> 02:26:09.670 Why don't you talk some more other, yeah. 02:26:11.050 --> 02:26:12.550 I've seen those by nothing. 02:26:12.620 --> 02:26:18.110 Local pages on Facebook, you know, definitely you definitely have a yeah Coast Facebook marketplace. 02:26:18.350 --> 02:26:24.490 Yeah, but there's that you don't know about lots of space. 02:26:24.730 --> 02:26:26.340 Of stuff friend out there. 02:26:26.930 --> 02:26:28.830 People do know about a friend or anything else. 02:26:29.020 --> 02:26:34.710 Yeah, you're still the thing that says I can sell this ugly couch five times for $10. 02:26:34.720 --> 02:26:36.550 You know offense because that's your business. 02:26:36.560 --> 02:26:38.390 But this is just the dude, you know? 02:26:38.490 --> 02:26:39.690 It's like I just took this off. 02:26:39.700 --> 02:26:42.350 Somebody else bought the side of the road and now I'm gonna put it on Facebook. 02:26:42.360 --> 02:26:43.890 And people do that all the time. 02:26:43.900 --> 02:26:52.030 You see that well, but what about, like, I'm a business and I have this waste stream that I create all the time and maybe somebody could use it. 02:26:52.580 --> 02:26:58.880 So we've talked about so much over the years, right, like the textile straps going to make baby clothes that. 02:26:59.030 --> 02:26:59.190 Yeah. 02:26:59.200 --> 02:27:00.440 How do you do that? Ever? 02:27:00.450 --> 02:27:00.910 Like, right? 02:27:00.920 --> 02:27:02.190 There's gonna be all kinds of stuff. 02:27:02.310 --> 02:27:11.700 So yeah, that's I don't have like is there a way to characterize and quantify like they have this much textiles we produce every month? 02:27:11.710 --> 02:27:20.840 Yeah, you know, and this working they go or this much construction demolished for your old files from a, you know, kitchen project to go to. 02:27:21.150 --> 02:27:21.530 Yeah. 02:27:21.540 --> 02:27:22.730 Wow, the logistics. 02:27:22.740 --> 02:27:25.670 They can't stand to watch the the the. 02:27:27.190 --> 02:27:30.850 Ohh, like the projects they do on TV where they tear down the house. 02:27:30.860 --> 02:27:36.510 Stuff like demo day and they taking these beautiful covers and just taking slashers and we're going with you. 02:27:37.850 --> 02:27:38.150 I'm sorry. 02:27:39.310 --> 02:27:39.880 Translation. 02:27:41.170 --> 02:27:42.040 The terrible part? 02:27:42.050 --> 02:27:43.120 Just throw them a lot of them. 02:27:43.130 --> 02:27:47.990 Do and that's a good idea, but it's working here to count because I think everybody knows where to call. 02:27:49.520 --> 02:27:50.970 Together, it's like, yeah. 02:27:58.630 --> 02:27:59.070 They are. 02:27:59.610 --> 02:28:00.460 Thank you. 02:28:00.550 --> 02:28:01.090 I was going. 02:28:01.100 --> 02:28:02.460 How come I can't help you? 02:28:02.770 --> 02:28:03.880 I'm I'm curious. 02:28:03.890 --> 02:28:09.940 I noticed that Presquile got a 32,400 an odd change grant from the DEP for. 02:28:11.290 --> 02:28:12.880 Food waste diversion. 02:28:13.230 --> 02:28:18.480 Has anyone got any ideas about that or anything to say about it? 02:28:18.490 --> 02:28:19.280 I think it's wonderful. 02:28:20.390 --> 02:28:20.770 Thank you. 02:28:20.620 --> 02:28:21.100 Everything. 02:28:21.410 --> 02:28:23.100 Yeah, sure. 02:28:23.490 --> 02:28:24.320 Let's control. 02:28:24.400 --> 02:28:25.690 That's all, and thank you. 02:28:25.730 --> 02:28:28.210 Very much realistic for the water department. 02:28:28.490 --> 02:28:28.870 Maybe. 02:28:28.880 --> 02:28:30.060 Ohh no perfect. 02:28:30.220 --> 02:28:31.180 This is Margaret Thatcher. 02:28:33.690 --> 02:28:34.870 Like Miss Computer again. 02:28:36.740 --> 02:28:37.280 There he is. 02:28:37.290 --> 02:28:40.370 Even coming back, he wasn't away. 02:28:43.290 --> 02:28:43.920 You're on, but. 02:28:49.760 --> 02:28:50.040 I guess. 02:28:46.020 --> 02:28:50.280 Well, it's just a process I have to raise my hand to engage you guys. 02:28:51.110 --> 02:28:53.700 So Randy's doing a wonderful thing. 02:28:54.340 --> 02:29:05.380 He engaged us several years back and got his first grant to kind of piggyback with what was happening out at lowering and he wants to expand it a little bit more. 02:29:05.800 --> 02:29:09.230 And I've reached out to mark on several occasions. 02:29:09.240 --> 02:29:23.380 I've had a few pipe dreams and he's kind of shut me down, but he is very receptive this time and I think that we're going to actually be able to have a collection site at his transfer station and and maybe quite possibly by the way. 02:29:23.390 --> 02:29:30.860 And Phil and quite possibly in the future, maybe even a little complex site out there, although I haven't really told him that's what I'd like to do until right now. 02:29:30.390 --> 02:29:34.620 That's, you know, it's. 02:29:34.670 --> 02:29:44.700 Grant that he just received his to expand his program and as long as things keep working well with the lowering site and we don't have that jet fuel. 02:29:45.780 --> 02:29:52.860 Redistribution product or whatever that's happening that shuts down lowering's composting, I think things will keep going smoothly. 02:29:56.170 --> 02:29:59.510 Mark, they were talking about having buckets at the farmers market, is that correct? 02:29:59.960 --> 02:30:00.730 Yes, yes. 02:30:00.740 --> 02:30:01.110 So. 02:30:01.120 --> 02:30:17.130 So so is bucket is bucket stay healthy soil and it's a really it's a cool concept and he just wants to start expanding a little more in the volume we could get by doing something with Mark would be excessive. 02:30:17.440 --> 02:30:28.400 And so I think he wants to build up his capacity before we reach out because one of the things that's really important to me is is to take baby steps because slow is smooth and smooth, is fast. 02:30:28.650 --> 02:30:29.900 And if you set people's. 02:30:29.930 --> 02:30:30.750 Expectations. 02:30:30.760 --> 02:30:31.710 And then don't deliver. 02:30:33.010 --> 02:30:34.840 You don't get a chance to set them again. 02:30:35.310 --> 02:30:44.190 People shut down pretty quickly, so my goal is to have him keep growing slowly and steadily, and then when the time is right, expand to a larger size. 02:30:52.160 --> 02:30:53.410 I'm sorry, I didn't understand. 02:30:53.500 --> 02:30:53.850 What? 02:30:54.460 --> 02:30:58.670 He's working from central or six solid waste oil. 02:30:58.810 --> 02:30:59.040 No. 02:31:00.330 --> 02:31:01.840 We work with Brandy too. 02:31:01.850 --> 02:31:13.920 Randy is a partner of ours, so that funding I'm aware of what's I figured out with Randy Martin, but he grows vegetables for us and we bring any of our stuff that needs to be composted to him, right. 02:31:13.970 --> 02:31:30.540 And in fact, if it's, if it's, if it's herbs that we've had sometimes we've had like 18 pallets of of parsley or something and it's all bundled up in those little wires and and they come in the black racks, we recycle. 02:31:30.550 --> 02:31:33.390 Well, we we give him the black racks and everything that we have. 02:31:33.760 --> 02:31:42.570 Once we distributed stuff that's over, those go to Randy, but we also take those little wires off and throw them in a bucket because Randy likes him when he's doing his little stuff. 02:31:42.580 --> 02:31:43.650 So he can bundle it up. 02:31:43.860 --> 02:31:45.590 So those are getting recycled as well. 02:31:45.930 --> 02:31:46.780 We have lost hers. 02:31:46.790 --> 02:31:48.360 Come in and take those off and throw in a buck. 02:31:50.420 --> 02:31:52.930 So it's it's household compostables. 02:31:54.080 --> 02:32:01.600 Yes, from households buckets and he's giving these buckets out at the at the farmers market and the markets every week on the market. 02:32:01.610 --> 02:32:02.550 So they can bring it back. 02:32:02.730 --> 02:32:03.090 Yeah. 02:32:03.430 --> 02:32:05.190 Yeah, they're hoping to expand over time. 02:32:05.290 --> 02:32:05.680 Thank you. 02:32:05.690 --> 02:32:07.780 Bring it back and get us a clean bucket every week. 02:32:08.490 --> 02:32:16.550 Same kind of the garbage garden type there is, but out of the cover on it's an agricultural program, really. 02:32:16.560 --> 02:32:22.660 More salt waste program for soil sample and he's a promised. 02:32:25.220 --> 02:32:28.330 Yes, the people who discovered at their houses. 02:32:30.750 --> 02:32:32.550 Such a pretty common. Yeah. 02:32:32.600 --> 02:32:35.530 You don't see too much food coming and in the trash. 02:32:35.600 --> 02:32:36.310 Sure we do. 02:32:36.780 --> 02:32:37.950 Yeah, I don't expect it. 02:32:38.060 --> 02:32:38.980 Yeah, sure. 02:32:39.420 --> 02:32:42.410 But I think it's common for people like to do. 02:32:42.900 --> 02:32:48.290 People have animals, they have animals or they have gardens and they want to offspring. 02:32:48.300 --> 02:32:51.890 God, just kind of doing people who don't. 02:32:51.900 --> 02:32:52.670 Why do you think they do? 02:32:55.090 --> 02:32:56.270 You have the same excuses. 02:32:56.280 --> 02:33:00.350 You would 2 bins, things all that space don't want to smell for me though. 02:33:01.260 --> 02:33:01.890 Straight talk. 02:33:02.490 --> 02:33:05.890 Yeah, we should see elderly in housing minister level. 02:33:05.900 --> 02:33:12.850 Probably the hardest challenges to people because of they live in housing of some sort, or if they're elderly, they can't log that bucket back and forth. 02:33:12.970 --> 02:33:13.780 They don't have a yard. 02:33:14.890 --> 02:33:23.450 You'll please take it like, I mean, speaking for myself personally, like, but if I work from RA, pick had a garden, I gave him all my food scraps, you know? 02:33:23.500 --> 02:33:25.500 So he took it and I didn't work there anymore. 02:33:25.610 --> 02:33:31.820 And yeah, but Farmer that I could give food scraps to throw him in the trash and then hand it started a curbside composting program. 02:33:31.830 --> 02:33:37.800 I signed up the week that they started and I put a bucket out every Monday morning and now I'm, you know, to burning my food waste. 02:33:37.810 --> 02:33:40.740 So that's the only reason I didn't do it because I just didn't have. 02:33:40.750 --> 02:33:41.960 It wasn't convenient, right? 02:33:41.970 --> 02:33:42.530 Is it that way? 02:33:42.540 --> 02:33:44.090 Everybody doesn't do something. 02:33:44.860 --> 02:33:46.310 It could be it's 25 bucks a month. 02:33:47.250 --> 02:33:48.870 I don't mind paying, right, you know. 02:33:47.340 --> 02:34:06.720 With the the thing up in the county that's really important to note is that there is a huge need for organic matter, but there is unfortunately a significant issue with farmers trusting products that aren't traditional commercially derived. 02:34:07.270 --> 02:34:07.590 Yeah. 02:34:07.250 --> 02:34:10.260 The gap process is a real big issue for us. 02:34:10.860 --> 02:34:19.730 I know in the past Bill when Bill was part of our sledge group, way back when we had a lot of pulpito composting, it worked awesome. 02:34:19.780 --> 02:34:25.730 But getting a farmer to use kalpita compost was, you know, virtually impossible to do. 02:34:26.200 --> 02:34:34.310 And so one of the things that I'm hoping to do besides get more food composting in the county is to raise the educational awareness. 02:34:34.620 --> 02:34:46.540 And I'm I'm working with Mark Hedrick and other folks at agriculture to try and get the farmers to just even do a trial here and there and judge it for themselves as opposed to just saying a flat no. 02:34:49.740 --> 02:35:11.390 But since you brought up education outreach, I know it was something that Rob and I were talking about earlier, like the need for statewide education, whether it's about where to recycle the battery out of our not to throw a battery somewhere, the proper disposal practices or what can go in a compost community compost bin or what can go with any kind of program. 02:35:11.680 --> 02:35:16.870 And we all know that it's a spider web out there, so everything is scaling is a little bit different. 02:35:16.880 --> 02:35:18.630 Every transparency is still different. 02:35:18.720 --> 02:35:35.160 You know the need for a statewide clearing house for information for average consumers and residents on what and how to do what they need to do, where they're at is absolutely like an overwhelming me. 02:35:35.230 --> 02:35:38.880 Now I tried to write a grant about that 2017 but it didn't go anywhere. 02:35:39.690 --> 02:35:45.540 So I'm fully, you know, that they can just look up the the what can I recycle, can I turn this in there? 02:35:45.550 --> 02:35:47.240 What time does the transfer station open? 02:35:47.350 --> 02:35:55.150 You know, I think it's garbage picked up once the PR program, it's things should be, can become more standard. Whatever state. 02:35:55.520 --> 02:35:56.790 Well, it's only for. 02:35:56.800 --> 02:35:59.340 That's only for that I get. 02:35:59.430 --> 02:36:01.800 That's like, really small it. 02:36:01.810 --> 02:36:03.830 It feels like a lot of products, but it's not the tires. 02:36:03.840 --> 02:36:05.920 It's not feel like it's not the pain. 02:36:05.930 --> 02:36:06.810 It's not the agent. 02:36:06.820 --> 02:36:12.920 Probably it's it's not all that other stuff and and so it's not gonna. 02:36:14.140 --> 02:36:14.650 Not the pet. 02:36:14.660 --> 02:36:15.400 She's not gonna. 02:36:15.410 --> 02:36:17.240 It's not gonna help with those things. 02:36:17.250 --> 02:36:26.970 Yeah, using me something similar that way and you might remember back when we had the garbage crew, you think NMDC used to, but we still have the garbage gang. Forcefully. 02:36:27.350 --> 02:36:39.650 But NBC maintained, like an inventory, you could go on where the transfer station nor the main development Commission, and they would cause and they were getting USDA solid waste management grants every year. 02:36:39.660 --> 02:36:41.310 And that was one of the things they had done. 02:36:41.320 --> 02:36:44.870 So if you lived in Ashland, you could look up where do I take my trash? 02:36:44.880 --> 02:36:46.040 Where is the transfer station? 02:36:46.050 --> 02:36:46.880 What are the hours? 02:36:46.890 --> 02:36:49.380 What do they take for those types of things? 02:36:49.390 --> 02:36:51.800 But it was done for just a roosting account. 02:36:52.090 --> 02:36:56.810 And then so many people are moving into the state now, even though we don't really recognize it or notice. 02:36:56.820 --> 02:36:58.130 Again, we're talking on the phone. 02:36:58.140 --> 02:36:58.790 You can tell. 02:36:58.800 --> 02:37:00.330 Ohh yeah, they're like how do I? 02:37:00.340 --> 02:37:01.590 We just moved here. 02:37:01.680 --> 02:37:02.870 Why isn't there? 02:37:03.160 --> 02:37:04.250 Why don't they do this? 02:37:04.260 --> 02:37:05.050 Why isn't that? 02:37:05.060 --> 02:37:06.370 Or where do I take this? 02:37:06.560 --> 02:37:08.010 And it's for everything. 02:37:08.160 --> 02:37:10.250 I mean, you know, but people want. 02:37:10.330 --> 02:37:12.830 I was doing a an event in Borno. 02:37:13.000 --> 02:37:14.730 People had just moved in from Massachusetts. 02:37:14.740 --> 02:37:17.760 They're like, how does recycling work in Oregon? 02:37:18.570 --> 02:37:31.100 Ohh, there is a story, but besides that but but people think naturally they this is they're used to doing it other places in more urban areas than about here. 02:37:31.110 --> 02:37:32.200 They want to know how it works. 02:37:32.600 --> 02:37:33.990 Redemption was the one too. 02:37:34.310 --> 02:37:34.510 Move. 02:37:34.050 --> 02:37:36.050 Was like, what's the redemption thing? 02:37:36.060 --> 02:37:39.530 I don't know where they move from, but they didn't have reception so I didn't explain. 02:37:38.700 --> 02:37:39.970 In that same. 02:37:40.310 --> 02:37:43.920 In that same vein, how about a statewide compost association? 02:37:45.450 --> 02:37:45.670 Yeah. 02:37:48.970 --> 02:37:49.160 What? 02:37:45.610 --> 02:37:55.340 That that's something we sorely need, because that would give a commonplace for information to be stored and dispersed education. 02:37:55.990 --> 02:38:12.520 We're actually one of the things I'm having, my intern Dominique, do as part of her miracorp experience is to put together a community based starting a compost project in your community baguette that'll include all the education necessary to get it started. 02:38:12.910 --> 02:38:16.090 And we're gonna make this available to anybody that wants it. 02:38:16.320 --> 02:38:24.370 And I think that's a way to kind of get the knowledge out there before I reach out to a town and say, hey, do you wanna start a compost operation? 02:38:24.720 --> 02:38:26.380 They actually have access to information. 02:38:31.950 --> 02:38:32.270 Kept. 02:38:32.280 --> 02:38:33.190 Did you have your hand up? 02:38:35.430 --> 02:38:37.060 Yes, thank you. 02:38:37.470 --> 02:38:37.670 Yep. 02:38:37.170 --> 02:38:38.190 Uh, I sent you. 02:38:38.690 --> 02:38:39.330 Can you hear me? 02:38:39.990 --> 02:38:40.130 Yes. 02:38:40.730 --> 02:38:46.620 OK, I sent Jessica my questions to suggestions and at the bottom of the list is Eco main. 02:38:47.190 --> 02:39:08.540 You were talking about educational outreach and and having people have like a a system to find out where they send things and on their website they have virtual tours, interactive quiz and also a database that lists items and it will tell you exactly where you need to take those. 02:39:08.910 --> 02:39:11.650 So they take the guesswork out of it some. 02:39:11.700 --> 02:39:13.070 It's an excellent model. 02:39:13.080 --> 02:39:23.750 I think I have a degree in dynamic website design and I was very impressed with the way that they set up a very user friendly and accessible. 02:39:24.810 --> 02:39:44.290 Umm, you know, tool for people to effectively like you were saying earlier people will do it if they just know where to do it, you know and and somebody else said yeah we should have something in place because if we let people down then they're gonna, you know resent it and they're gonna just kind of opt out of things. 02:39:44.360 --> 02:39:49.570 So I would invite you to check out ecomain.org and take a look at their systems. 02:39:49.580 --> 02:39:53.720 They're quite comprehensive and they're in, I think, either York or Cumberland County. 02:39:53.780 --> 02:39:54.780 Not exactly sure. 02:39:55.060 --> 02:39:55.420 Thank you. 02:39:57.150 --> 02:40:03.900 There are towns that paper that systems too like I think I think the town of York has recycled coach, which they paid for through subscription. 02:40:04.210 --> 02:40:06.300 I have no idea how much it costs, but I know it is. 02:40:06.350 --> 02:40:08.840 It is a service that some towns provide. 02:40:08.850 --> 02:40:13.470 Some states provide in our budget substance. 02:40:13.720 --> 02:40:23.560 Some towns also have just a thing that they send out to residents, you know, on a regular basis or when people to town like a welcome packet. 02:40:23.570 --> 02:40:28.230 And relation has different things that you need to know about how the town runs. 02:40:28.240 --> 02:40:29.680 Including this is what we do. 02:40:29.690 --> 02:40:34.810 There's a lot of that used to be just the magnets that you get on your fridge, or like you said, the brochures. 02:40:34.820 --> 02:40:39.510 But it's towns have cut their budgets of these educational and outreach materials have gone by the wayside. 02:40:39.580 --> 02:40:39.890 Right. 02:40:39.940 --> 02:40:45.190 You know that it's it's unfortunate and the staff to produce this, you know, just like the town newsletter. 02:40:45.200 --> 02:40:47.650 It's it's a victim of pasta password. 02:40:47.700 --> 02:40:59.570 See, I think everyone here is a purpose, but we also do have them waste diversion grant program, which mark is the the lead on Jim and I participate on the committee as well as my partner and it does fund education outreach. 02:40:59.580 --> 02:41:11.510 If you could make a case where how it's gonna help you divert from the URL so the whole gold programs to divert material, but any it's for public or private entities and education, right. 02:41:12.590 --> 02:41:15.660 Speaking of that grant, that was one of the things I was getting I saw here. 02:41:15.670 --> 02:41:16.410 What are your questions? 02:41:16.420 --> 02:41:18.540 Was if you had extra funding, what would you invested in? 02:41:18.710 --> 02:41:19.130 Yes. 02:41:19.950 --> 02:41:26.140 What are the things I look at these grant programs, including the department said it makes sense that, you know, I get the thought process. 02:41:26.150 --> 02:41:32.200 How you're going to expand your program, how you're gonna add material type that that's all well and good. 02:41:32.370 --> 02:41:45.980 But one of the things that we struggle with, we're beginning to struggle with is back in the 80s and 90s, main waste management agency just through money every cycle, everybody was buying baylors and building buildings. 02:41:46.370 --> 02:41:47.150 Guess what? 02:41:47.270 --> 02:41:53.760 All that stuff is worn out and right now, particularly if you look at, I think this is always been the case. 02:41:53.770 --> 02:41:59.940 You look at recycling PR might help a little bit with that, but there there's stuffs wearing out. 02:41:59.950 --> 02:42:01.920 I've got trucks that are worn out. 02:42:02.630 --> 02:42:03.650 There's no. 02:42:03.750 --> 02:42:12.500 Is there money to just maintain what we're doing because it risk is backsliding, is real and you're seeing it is an Auburn or Lewiston? 02:42:12.510 --> 02:42:16.660 Yeah, movements of buildings there, those transfer stations. 02:42:17.560 --> 02:42:22.680 So I mean, I did the hard part for me is I'm not going to demonstrate that I can add material by doing this. 02:42:22.690 --> 02:42:24.450 I'm going to demonstrate your mistake. 02:42:24.990 --> 02:42:25.170 Never. 02:42:25.510 --> 02:42:27.110 So that is a possibility. 02:42:27.890 --> 02:42:28.560 Yeah. 02:42:28.890 --> 02:42:31.220 Good you may see an application alright. 02:42:33.080 --> 02:42:33.290 So. 02:42:31.670 --> 02:42:34.090 So because I mean, that's what we're saying. 02:42:34.270 --> 02:42:36.930 Stuff just right now for this one. 02:42:41.300 --> 02:42:41.430 Yes. 02:42:36.390 --> 02:42:46.080 I I guess I just wanted to throw in that we're in the process of refining the RFP because we've had a few issues with the last round. 02:42:46.090 --> 02:42:56.980 And so we're gonna basically put it to really capital improvements and things to either keep your diversion going strong or to expand it. 02:42:57.330 --> 02:43:02.360 We we've had a lot of people try to put their salaries in and we're just we just gonna cut that right out. 02:43:02.690 --> 02:43:04.340 So we want this money to go towards. 02:43:04.350 --> 02:43:06.100 Something's gonna actually stimulate diversion. 02:43:06.740 --> 02:43:12.970 So look for something end of July, beginning of August will be the next round. 02:43:13.920 --> 02:43:14.600 Click thank you Mark. 02:43:15.270 --> 02:43:15.490 Yeah. 02:43:18.120 --> 02:43:19.320 It doesn't take a quick break. 02:43:20.310 --> 02:43:23.460 Think we're about halfway through our a lot of time. 02:43:24.030 --> 02:43:26.120 I think we got a couple people that you think about. 02:43:26.590 --> 02:43:32.980 I guess I'll take like 5 and 510 minutes of like that 35 minutes, 5 minutes. 02:43:32.990 --> 02:43:33.390 OK. 02:43:33.520 --> 02:43:34.190 You think? 02:43:34.600 --> 02:43:35.550 Yeah, 5 minutes. 02:43:36.480 --> 02:43:37.460 Yeah, alright. 02:43:37.580 --> 02:43:44.520 So without I think it would one line stone. 02:43:44.570 --> 02:43:45.810 Yeah, probably brother. 02:43:46.880 --> 02:43:47.920 Like much quieter. 02:43:47.930 --> 02:43:49.220 But she she. 02:43:50.920 --> 02:43:51.280 I don't know. 02:43:51.290 --> 02:43:52.380 I mean for Father. 02:43:52.540 --> 02:43:54.800 Yeah, like stop. Exactly. 02:43:55.160 --> 02:43:56.270 That's never gonna be there. 02:43:56.340 --> 02:43:58.030 So security baseline, OK, right. 02:43:58.190 --> 02:44:08.500 But then they don't get your back coming out that I actually communicated. 02:44:08.720 --> 02:44:10.400 Yeah, you have a car? 02:44:10.470 --> 02:44:10.640 Yeah. 02:44:11.020 --> 02:44:11.390 Let's see. 02:44:12.280 --> 02:44:12.950 No, they. 02:44:14.730 --> 02:44:15.920 Yeah. 02:44:15.970 --> 02:44:16.580 We're gonna go. 02:44:16.960 --> 02:44:17.300 That's good. 02:44:18.100 --> 02:44:25.080 So those are the just like, believe it, you're there. Yeah. 02:44:25.590 --> 02:44:27.130 So I think it's the best Jackson. 02:44:27.540 --> 02:44:32.180 These are online shoppers and only it's here is. 02:44:33.180 --> 02:44:33.520 Thank you. 02:44:33.710 --> 02:44:34.010 Suck. 02:44:34.310 --> 02:44:35.650 Thank you. Shopping. 02:44:36.310 --> 02:44:36.940 No, no, no. 02:44:36.950 --> 02:44:38.870 You don't have to wait, right? 02:44:40.820 --> 02:44:43.550 Yeah, we have all I think nice. 02:44:43.670 --> 02:44:44.020 Those are. 02:44:44.060 --> 02:44:46.750 Ohh, I'd since you were here sending him that. 02:44:46.760 --> 02:44:47.580 Well, is he gonna? 02:44:47.880 --> 02:44:51.900 So yeah, like shows up. 02:44:51.910 --> 02:44:55.570 Yeah, like, you know, my sister thinks she's back, that's all busted. 02:44:58.680 --> 02:44:59.330 Good morning. 02:44:59.450 --> 02:44:59.930 Thank you. 02:45:00.010 --> 02:45:02.720 I'm yeah, yeah. 02:45:03.030 --> 02:45:04.730 Think about this way back. 02:45:04.740 --> 02:45:05.000 Yeah. 02:45:05.010 --> 02:45:06.450 And that's about how I see you. 02:45:06.520 --> 02:45:06.650 Yeah. 02:45:08.140 --> 02:45:09.570 Yeah, that's yeah, that's right. 02:45:09.750 --> 02:45:10.860 Make comments, right? 02:45:10.910 --> 02:45:16.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get you upset. No. 02:45:18.160 --> 02:45:19.050 I was still. Yes. 02:45:19.560 --> 02:45:21.660 No, in the two labels and so. 02:45:21.790 --> 02:45:22.630 Me too, bill. 02:45:24.900 --> 02:45:27.140 Things that we step somewhere, let's just go together. 02:45:27.310 --> 02:45:29.970 Yes, my little building is cool weekend. 02:45:31.040 --> 02:45:32.930 This afternoon it was never. 02:45:33.300 --> 02:45:33.930 It's never. 02:45:34.440 --> 02:45:36.090 I didn't see the magistrate. 02:45:36.340 --> 02:45:36.970 That is what? 02:45:36.980 --> 02:45:37.450 Everything. 02:45:39.750 --> 02:45:41.510 No, it's freezing here. Really. 02:45:42.180 --> 02:45:43.700 Ain't gonna somebody. 02:45:44.270 --> 02:45:45.820 The only thing this church. 02:45:46.280 --> 02:45:52.200 OK, do no I can give you a message after number like 30% please. 02:45:52.500 --> 02:45:52.780 Right. 02:45:53.440 --> 02:45:55.320 If they don't, no, you don't say there's. 02:45:56.910 --> 02:45:57.560 This is something. 02:46:00.330 --> 02:46:00.540 So. 02:46:06.670 --> 02:46:09.310 Is working well subway language. 02:46:09.320 --> 02:46:12.520 It's something educational outreach to sit backwards, yeah. 02:46:13.320 --> 02:46:15.560 Just miss out this. 02:46:15.640 --> 02:46:17.340 She's like, surely I do. 02:46:17.480 --> 02:46:18.900 That's awesome. 02:46:19.060 --> 02:46:19.410 Thank you. 02:46:20.280 --> 02:46:26.620 Yes, the dust on material after the couple falsely second, yeah. 02:46:26.630 --> 02:46:28.540 So maybe something like switching? 02:46:29.640 --> 02:46:30.230 Let's do so. 02:46:30.440 --> 02:46:32.180 It's working this. 02:46:34.230 --> 02:46:34.460 Things. 02:46:34.610 --> 02:46:34.790 Yeah. 02:46:35.430 --> 02:46:35.730 Enjoy. 02:46:36.000 --> 02:46:37.450 Yes, I'm reaching the? 02:46:37.690 --> 02:46:38.260 You're asking. 02:46:38.550 --> 02:46:43.220 It's just like I said, I basically said I'm gonna have a month. 02:46:43.300 --> 02:46:44.580 They have what's called the other. 02:46:45.450 --> 02:46:47.020 Yeah. Well, yeah. 02:46:47.060 --> 02:46:51.240 And then so I'm going to send these batteries and even did OK. 02:46:51.250 --> 02:46:51.470 Good. 02:46:52.220 --> 02:46:53.130 I like this. 02:46:54.060 --> 02:46:55.520 So did you say you go? 02:46:56.650 --> 02:46:56.850 Yeah. 02:46:57.230 --> 02:46:58.750 Yes, but thank you. 02:46:58.800 --> 02:46:59.680 Is that pretty? Well, yeah. 02:47:00.030 --> 02:47:01.770 Sound good to you? 02:47:02.800 --> 02:47:05.700 Maybe. Yeah. Yes. 02:47:05.830 --> 02:47:06.530 No, I don't. 02:47:06.540 --> 02:47:07.990 I you may live. Yeah. 02:47:08.080 --> 02:47:09.280 So I still busy, but OK. 02:47:09.680 --> 02:47:11.260 Are there's, there's been. 02:47:11.460 --> 02:47:13.220 So it looks like extracts some good idea. 02:47:13.430 --> 02:47:14.760 They're not gonna be good right now. 02:47:14.770 --> 02:47:15.210 Yeah. 02:47:15.450 --> 02:47:22.420 You know, just, you know, they would apply, but you know, I know something's little politicians part last few years, it's something. 02:47:22.810 --> 02:47:23.200 Yeah. 02:47:23.340 --> 02:47:25.030 Again there today. 02:47:29.260 --> 02:47:29.510 No. 02:47:29.970 --> 02:47:30.590 Yep, we'll start. 02:47:30.820 --> 02:47:32.410 Wait, let me know. 02:47:32.550 --> 02:47:34.500 It's yeah. 02:47:35.070 --> 02:47:36.200 So I'm still there. 02:47:39.430 --> 02:47:40.200 Well or more. 02:47:43.520 --> 02:47:44.000 Just put it in. 02:47:44.440 --> 02:47:45.590 It's now. 02:47:45.960 --> 02:47:47.090 Yeah, there's yeah. 02:47:47.100 --> 02:47:55.330 So it's yes, because there's always course with the timeline that you have enough actually the second they have been told. Yeah. 02:47:55.340 --> 02:47:56.270 Yeah, let me. 02:47:56.570 --> 02:47:57.530 We had a restaurant. 02:47:59.340 --> 02:48:02.090 No, but you suffer connecting. 02:48:02.500 --> 02:48:02.760 Yeah. 02:48:02.770 --> 02:48:04.620 Yeah, I'll save, right. 02:48:05.330 --> 02:48:05.640 Yeah. 02:48:06.000 --> 02:48:06.920 Promise you. It's great. 02:48:07.260 --> 02:48:10.180 Then it's like in my eyes, he's had butterflies. 02:48:10.550 --> 02:48:11.400 I like that coming. 02:48:12.310 --> 02:48:13.430 Keep us posted angry. 02:48:13.680 --> 02:48:14.390 I know that. 02:48:14.520 --> 02:48:14.680 Yeah. 02:48:15.420 --> 02:48:16.380 Or so I priced. 02:48:16.490 --> 02:48:18.670 This is the translator that. 02:48:22.190 --> 02:48:22.750 They don't have to. 02:48:24.130 --> 02:48:26.130 You know that that's OK with it. 02:48:26.210 --> 02:48:26.650 I went to the. 02:48:33.370 --> 02:48:35.280 And everything picked it up. 02:48:35.330 --> 02:48:36.930 Daughter, where is this something? 02:48:38.520 --> 02:48:39.140 It's better. 02:48:41.870 --> 02:48:44.590 I can't see those are so because thanks. 02:48:45.310 --> 02:48:48.690 I'm talking the black and. Yeah, right. 02:48:48.850 --> 02:48:52.050 Are you like this back? 02:48:52.240 --> 02:48:52.920 I don't. 02:48:53.050 --> 02:48:53.850 So yeah. 02:48:54.190 --> 02:48:55.070 I know each. 02:48:55.800 --> 02:48:56.080 Yeah. 02:48:57.040 --> 02:48:57.410 Yeah. 02:48:58.540 --> 02:49:00.580 And that's yeah. 02:49:01.120 --> 02:49:04.850 Yeah, we don't go straight up here. 02:49:05.700 --> 02:49:06.330 It's right. 02:49:06.440 --> 02:49:08.600 I think there is something I'm looking to see. 02:49:08.610 --> 02:49:08.740 What? 02:49:08.840 --> 02:49:09.480 That's nice. 02:49:09.670 --> 02:49:09.950 Don't. 02:49:09.960 --> 02:49:10.690 Get stuck with you. 02:49:10.760 --> 02:49:11.170 Let's see. 02:49:11.400 --> 02:49:14.430 I can see my case with. Yeah. 02:49:14.440 --> 02:49:17.880 Yeah, just such that's you're living up just like, so yeah. 02:49:18.040 --> 02:49:21.790 It's like, what's your question? Goodnight. 02:49:24.370 --> 02:49:26.000 Just Spanish. 02:49:26.260 --> 02:49:27.220 You'll have these through. 02:49:27.380 --> 02:49:32.530 That's more so no comments. 02:49:32.750 --> 02:49:38.580 Everything was what's I want you to think about and the other days, yeah. 02:49:41.430 --> 02:49:41.750 I just. 02:49:41.870 --> 02:49:44.990 You don't need to guide like personally something like that. 02:49:45.050 --> 02:49:45.590 Are they talking? 02:49:46.060 --> 02:49:46.550 I did say that. 02:49:47.670 --> 02:49:49.750 See, that's what I was talking to. 02:49:49.860 --> 02:49:50.200 Thank you. 02:49:50.270 --> 02:49:51.390 The I'm driving over here. 02:49:51.630 --> 02:49:52.370 Yeah, this. 02:50:00.420 --> 02:50:02.290 Yeah, it's right. 02:50:08.880 --> 02:50:10.520 Then we have the two days we had the fire. 02:50:10.810 --> 02:50:12.350 OK? Yeah. 02:50:14.630 --> 02:50:19.870 Travel ball sized so you can get hired for the hard work, right? 02:50:22.800 --> 02:50:23.890 Yeah, that's impressive. 02:50:24.060 --> 02:50:24.800 I'm scared. 02:50:25.030 --> 02:50:25.530 Typer. 02:50:25.600 --> 02:50:27.970 Yeah, that's alright. 02:50:27.980 --> 02:50:29.300 It's actually making attractive. 02:50:29.540 --> 02:50:30.490 How's your choice? 02:50:30.660 --> 02:50:31.310 The primary. 02:50:31.320 --> 02:50:32.370 That's wonderful. 02:50:32.490 --> 02:50:32.690 Yeah. 02:50:33.130 --> 02:50:34.470 The other day, that's OK. 02:50:35.210 --> 02:50:35.520 No. 02:50:35.530 --> 02:50:36.180 Yeah, he's been. 02:50:36.190 --> 02:50:38.390 I think he's not living there. 02:50:38.490 --> 02:50:39.830 Well, conditions. 02:50:39.970 --> 02:50:42.670 So what do you do on instead of doing things? 02:50:42.990 --> 02:50:48.590 I didn't realize that really lights action. 02:50:49.170 --> 02:50:54.590 This is 1 connection, but yes, like my confirmation spanning, that's yes. 02:50:54.800 --> 02:50:55.170 I just. 02:50:55.180 --> 02:50:55.280 Yeah. 02:50:55.880 --> 02:50:56.120 Like. 02:50:56.190 --> 02:50:58.100 Yeah, that's probably what happened. 02:50:58.250 --> 02:50:59.210 We'll see you there too. 02:50:59.560 --> 02:51:01.550 Just check back that's. 02:51:05.150 --> 02:51:06.730 Yes, it must have been. OK. 02:51:06.920 --> 02:51:08.170 I'll be happy. Everything. 02:51:08.180 --> 02:51:08.560 It's all. 02:51:08.630 --> 02:51:10.060 Yeah, that's good. 02:51:10.610 --> 02:51:11.110 Don't need it now. 02:51:11.370 --> 02:51:12.540 It's it's not that you're old. 02:51:12.720 --> 02:51:17.370 So, so this park is a license you're probably gonna lose. 02:51:17.380 --> 02:51:17.920 Me too. 02:51:18.700 --> 02:51:20.070 I'm gonna say goodbye. 02:51:20.320 --> 02:51:20.760 I gotta. 02:51:20.770 --> 02:51:21.770 I don't wanna talk to you. 02:51:22.400 --> 02:51:22.710 So. 02:51:22.790 --> 02:51:23.300 So we got. 02:51:23.310 --> 02:51:24.220 You're gonna help me? 02:51:24.490 --> 02:51:25.710 So close the door. 02:51:25.920 --> 02:51:28.810 Still there the last you know getting saved. 02:51:30.220 --> 02:51:31.550 Glitter or illegal dumping? 02:51:31.560 --> 02:51:33.710 Is there probably guess it is gonna be here? 02:51:33.800 --> 02:51:34.080 Yeah. 02:51:35.120 --> 02:51:35.870 What do you think? 02:51:35.880 --> 02:51:37.380 I'm just looking up one last question. 02:51:38.430 --> 02:51:39.510 That's the biggest thing. 02:51:39.970 --> 02:51:40.590 That's the thing. 02:51:40.980 --> 02:51:46.860 Like they're building, I've seen all the time that you're like, ohh. 02:51:46.870 --> 02:52:00.300 If we had kind of program know that we could basically you're out help me particular restrained like 2 minutes this can work just so we can basically let me talk outlines. 02:52:01.110 --> 02:52:04.730 Yeah, actually, I don't know if you guys have one. 02:52:04.990 --> 02:52:06.000 Like deconstruction? 02:52:06.050 --> 02:52:06.690 Yeah, something. 02:52:11.060 --> 02:52:12.570 About that's. 02:52:12.580 --> 02:52:16.580 Yeah, that's seeing the yeah, that would be my. 02:52:16.590 --> 02:52:18.120 My meeting is is mattress. 02:52:19.010 --> 02:52:20.400 No, we put on the radar. 02:52:20.490 --> 02:52:23.140 So it's recycled to. 02:52:23.810 --> 02:52:25.070 We get out. 02:52:25.260 --> 02:52:26.170 That was done something new. 02:52:26.250 --> 02:52:33.700 That's funny because it's about that look like stick around my sister's permit sticker off my sister's car with blacked off my truck. 02:52:33.710 --> 02:52:36.730 Truck, coffee and transfers cost you here. 02:52:37.000 --> 02:52:38.390 What it was like that. Thank you. 02:52:38.840 --> 02:52:41.430 What's gonna cost me $21.00 for a boxer? 02:52:41.740 --> 02:52:43.610 I laughed at the guy I thought he was kidding. 02:52:44.160 --> 02:52:48.480 Then I said I bought these facilities and he realized it wasn't from probably, Reese said. 02:52:48.490 --> 02:52:50.250 The part of the truck. Yeah. 02:52:50.320 --> 02:52:50.910 Yes, sister. 02:52:50.920 --> 02:52:51.960 Doesn't great stuff. 02:52:52.880 --> 02:52:53.390 Yeah, too. 02:52:53.990 --> 02:52:57.440 So I probably hours I just so we get a strange passage. 02:52:57.450 --> 02:52:58.930 Read bulky items with our permit. 02:53:00.380 --> 02:53:03.620 What the Gray $1.00 has to get rid of that. 02:53:03.840 --> 02:53:06.310 That's see what's happening. 02:53:08.090 --> 02:53:09.710 One, all of them bringing them to us. 02:53:09.720 --> 02:53:11.590 No charge and criminal. 02:53:11.850 --> 02:53:13.550 That's they don't have the time. 02:53:13.560 --> 02:53:17.720 Eventually, it's not well. 02:53:18.750 --> 02:53:21.250 I mean, they're happy but but can't be faulted. 02:53:21.260 --> 02:53:23.080 They can be happy, but they're more body. 02:53:23.420 --> 02:53:25.780 Our families is they're creating fire. 02:53:25.790 --> 02:53:26.060 Yeah. 02:53:26.300 --> 02:53:26.760 Yeah. 02:53:26.810 --> 02:53:27.550 See tonight. 02:53:27.980 --> 02:53:30.780 That's right, my my formative Prescott. 02:53:30.790 --> 02:53:35.480 Dave, don't swear later since caused by absolutely the last part we had. 02:53:37.180 --> 02:53:37.530 Talk. 02:53:37.540 --> 02:53:38.100 Dirty job. 02:53:40.690 --> 02:53:42.760 Spontaneously, yes. 02:53:42.830 --> 02:53:46.920 If they get dry enough, and if they have any exploit. 02:53:49.160 --> 02:53:51.260 Yeah, I've seen. 02:53:51.270 --> 02:53:52.430 Yeah, I know, right? 02:53:53.470 --> 02:53:57.010 My 4 minutes is the same thing that I believe you said. 02:53:57.020 --> 02:53:58.990 He'd literally laughed all day. 02:53:59.000 --> 02:53:59.630 Long time. 02:53:59.740 --> 02:54:03.020 The other day, paper Fox. 02:54:03.780 --> 02:54:04.700 I did not hear you. 02:54:04.960 --> 02:54:05.570 Just trials. 02:54:05.580 --> 02:54:06.800 He does trials all the time. 02:54:06.810 --> 02:54:24.330 So yeah, I mean, I don't know that it's like it's like right now it's saying I feel like that's a good mattress isn't just in the middle of the then there's really big economic opportunity that because you could have kids out there like in tech school learning how to. 02:54:24.540 --> 02:54:26.790 It's just like just making money. 02:54:26.800 --> 02:54:28.660 Stuff isn't selling this stuff like that. 02:54:28.860 --> 02:54:29.290 This picture? 02:54:29.300 --> 02:54:30.470 That's we. 02:54:30.520 --> 02:54:31.650 So we do not charge. 02:54:31.660 --> 02:54:38.400 We have a we do not charge for cleaning, he's looking at their spot pressure treated off pain and nothing attached to it. 02:54:39.000 --> 02:54:39.320 Charlie. 02:54:39.550 --> 02:54:40.440 But you can carry. 02:54:40.600 --> 02:54:42.810 Free download the breeze. 02:54:43.100 --> 02:54:45.670 OK, whatever they want to don't resolve, right? 02:54:46.340 --> 02:54:50.070 And so we tell that everybody is homeowners, contractors. Formative. 02:54:50.160 --> 02:54:55.200 Yeah, people now always going to hundreds of let's do it. 02:54:55.770 --> 02:55:06.590 Still, watching labor so different some of these, like they're just just looking at this website for South, which they're selling these doors and participation. 02:55:06.750 --> 02:55:08.320 There's a difference, though. 02:55:08.330 --> 02:55:08.790 Doors. 02:55:08.800 --> 02:55:10.040 Yeah, that's the thing. 02:55:10.350 --> 02:55:12.430 My wife watched like 11 seasons. 02:55:12.440 --> 02:55:14.210 She binge watched 11 season. 02:55:14.220 --> 02:55:15.270 So what the hell was? 02:55:16.140 --> 02:55:17.390 That's what they did. I'm just. 02:55:17.400 --> 02:55:19.180 I'm going down South and they got this. 02:55:20.440 --> 02:55:27.100 Yeah, I'll have a brand new songs and so right talking about that is that is it covered in lead paint? 02:55:27.290 --> 02:55:28.400 Yeah, absolutely. 02:55:28.410 --> 02:55:29.140 Are you? 02:55:29.150 --> 02:55:30.980 Remember the name absolutely are Joe. 02:55:30.990 --> 02:55:33.450 When you sleep, black dog somethings right. 02:55:33.460 --> 02:55:35.110 Constant salvage. 02:55:35.120 --> 02:55:37.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 02:55:37.240 --> 02:55:37.880 Nice to see you. 02:55:38.310 --> 02:55:40.920 You first you were already setting our state. 02:55:40.930 --> 02:55:43.000 Sorry say, but yeah, sorry. 02:55:43.010 --> 02:55:43.510 We're leaving. 02:55:43.580 --> 02:55:44.070 What did you say? 02:55:44.130 --> 02:55:45.080 That's giving you big. 02:55:45.610 --> 02:55:47.910 You guys are gonna tell you guys hosting overnight? 02:55:48.290 --> 02:55:48.470 Yeah. 02:55:49.760 --> 02:55:50.000 Great. 02:55:50.080 --> 02:55:52.210 You better hold shiretown motorist shirt. 02:55:52.290 --> 02:55:57.210 You know no reservations, but yeah, once she. 02:55:57.300 --> 02:55:57.860 What are you guys? 02:55:58.010 --> 02:55:59.030 Not graduation. 02:55:59.120 --> 02:55:59.730 What is it? 02:55:59.820 --> 02:56:00.310 Your hand? 02:56:00.320 --> 02:56:01.610 Just Hamptons. 02:56:02.000 --> 02:56:07.020 Both both everything was on the board, so to here what's going on in town building? 02:56:07.030 --> 02:56:08.980 All the hotels are we can get a hotel. 02:56:11.950 --> 02:56:14.700 I don't know have been. 02:56:15.390 --> 02:56:17.320 They knew it was indeed asking for. 02:56:17.330 --> 02:56:20.640 Really, we thought we thought it was gonna be so packed. 02:56:20.650 --> 02:56:21.430 We have to sweeten. 02:56:22.330 --> 02:56:23.350 Ohh, maybe 5. 02:56:23.610 --> 02:56:25.460 Successful good jumping. 02:56:25.470 --> 02:56:27.180 Yemeni are they gonna have loaded fish yet? 02:56:27.250 --> 02:56:27.920 And what's? 02:56:28.670 --> 02:56:31.220 I don't know anything in particular going on this time. 02:56:31.570 --> 02:56:33.040 They might just just. 02:56:33.050 --> 02:56:39.000 It's the cabinet doors that is there in the world to be the next three months. 02:56:39.010 --> 02:56:39.510 When did you? 02:56:39.910 --> 02:56:40.700 When did you try? 02:56:40.710 --> 02:56:41.500 Lately here. 02:56:41.570 --> 02:56:41.750 Yeah. 02:56:42.460 --> 02:56:43.830 Sometime this week. 02:56:43.840 --> 02:56:44.210 Yeah. 02:56:44.280 --> 02:56:44.790 Yeah. 02:56:44.850 --> 02:56:46.030 Wow, rooted county. 02:56:46.040 --> 02:56:49.990 You gotta call him off the head, too for two months, but then they don't know. 02:56:50.000 --> 02:56:51.130 It's like the rest of me. 02:56:51.380 --> 02:56:52.940 Yeah, terrible. 02:56:53.060 --> 02:56:54.850 Tell me here. Good. 02:56:54.860 --> 02:56:55.650 Thanks for coming. 02:56:55.660 --> 02:56:56.030 Take care. 02:56:56.480 --> 02:56:56.980 Do you? 02:56:57.050 --> 02:57:01.080 Like to see Michigan see Mark and see if they think you're all yours. 02:57:01.130 --> 02:57:01.410 Good luck. 02:57:03.550 --> 02:57:03.940 I'm sorry. 02:57:03.950 --> 02:57:04.360 Who are you? 02:57:04.530 --> 02:57:05.780 I'm Trevor and Shaw. 02:57:07.810 --> 02:57:08.740 OK, got it. 02:57:08.750 --> 02:57:09.120 Thank you. 02:57:09.310 --> 02:57:12.550 They can come in oil resistant paper. 02:57:13.630 --> 02:57:15.260 The nice. 02:57:15.340 --> 02:57:16.180 Well done. 02:57:16.250 --> 02:57:16.970 How'd you do that? 02:57:17.170 --> 02:57:18.480 So is the cars large? 02:57:18.970 --> 02:57:20.460 Very good start face. 02:57:22.120 --> 02:57:27.600 It's like the Norwegians heartcatch easy when we work in very thick ionising they were. 02:57:28.030 --> 02:57:30.850 They never used chlorine and the paperwork is still there. 02:57:30.860 --> 02:57:32.080 I wonder if you do test it. 02:57:33.930 --> 02:57:35.290 Are you his blood testing? 02:57:34.600 --> 02:57:35.300 I am still here. 02:57:36.170 --> 02:57:36.750 Hi, mark. 02:57:36.800 --> 02:57:37.140 Hey, mark. 02:57:37.240 --> 02:57:37.450 Hey. 02:57:37.460 --> 02:57:38.700 Hey, what's the question? 02:57:42.110 --> 02:57:46.530 Oil resistant paper that is using starts instead of PFAS. 02:57:48.170 --> 02:57:52.290 I'm looking composting could start should compose sure. 02:57:47.960 --> 02:58:07.320 Once again, it the one one of the issues with the material is that it's never just plant based as always something that holds it together and the issue is we just they're making so many compostable items so quickly. 02:58:08.050 --> 02:58:11.120 That what you have is an industry standard of what is in. 02:58:11.130 --> 02:58:26.230 It may be totally different a day later when someone comes up with a new formulation, so all that I found all the different products that I have tried including plant based, have all fallen below the mark of of a compostability. 02:58:26.650 --> 02:58:36.980 The only thing that I've ever used that has met the standard is bamboo and and that's what I tell folks they want to use bamboo flatware, bamboo plates, bamboo based napkins. 02:58:37.290 --> 02:58:39.780 I I do support that because that does compost. 02:58:41.560 --> 02:58:42.440 You're you're. 02:58:42.450 --> 02:58:51.480 You're things specifically composable for packaging, or are you just talking about tell Matt letterhead or no, it doesn't look great. 02:58:52.380 --> 02:58:52.780 Great. 02:58:54.480 --> 02:58:55.740 Is it just start? 02:58:55.870 --> 02:59:02.490 You're certainly a couple other items that not asking. 02:59:02.680 --> 02:59:05.880 So is it designed for recyclability, compostability or both? 02:59:07.330 --> 02:59:08.440 I would have to look back. 02:59:08.450 --> 02:59:08.660 OK. 02:59:09.720 --> 02:59:10.810 The interesting to know. 02:59:11.180 --> 02:59:13.010 Yeah, but can you send this some? 02:59:14.610 --> 02:59:15.510 That's nervous. 02:59:16.040 --> 02:59:17.770 Yeah, you have it on your website. 02:59:18.520 --> 02:59:19.290 I yeah. 02:59:19.300 --> 02:59:21.510 Something someone and we can look at it. 02:59:21.520 --> 02:59:22.490 The chemistry near me. 02:59:23.350 --> 02:59:23.560 Yeah. 02:59:23.570 --> 02:59:24.140 I mean, I'd be. 02:59:24.150 --> 02:59:25.280 I'd be willing to try it. 02:59:26.710 --> 02:59:27.280 Yes. 02:59:41.140 --> 02:59:41.390 Right. 02:59:25.290 --> 02:59:42.150 I I tested a bunch of stuff years back the the issue is that this is marketed to people that buy groceries and it's only intended to be composted in a commercial operation that routinely receives 160 degrees, sustained for three to six weeks. 02:59:42.400 --> 02:59:53.510 And so that's the problem is people put this in their home compost bin and then they they don't understand why it doesn't break down and then it ends up in their garden and they get very, very frustrated. 02:59:53.590 --> 02:59:53.720 And. 02:59:57.310 --> 02:59:58.220 Yes, indeed. 02:59:58.860 --> 03:00:00.730 Second, get you in contact with my. 03:00:03.450 --> 03:00:04.300 Yeah, that would be great. 03:00:04.880 --> 03:00:05.480 Nice to meet you. 03:00:05.490 --> 03:00:06.080 Bye bye. 03:00:06.390 --> 03:00:07.070 Thank you for coming. 03:00:09.430 --> 03:00:14.500 You have have prize the same door prize, but they're only the people who showed up. 03:00:14.510 --> 03:00:15.300 Yeah, in person. 03:00:16.540 --> 03:00:18.290 So for it we can we can take it from here. 03:00:18.300 --> 03:00:20.840 Megan here thinking. 03:00:20.850 --> 03:00:22.730 Yeah, but he didn't. 03:00:23.690 --> 03:00:24.210 I am. 03:00:24.220 --> 03:00:27.440 They're gonna fix me feeling like I need to, like, be 5:00. 03:00:27.450 --> 03:00:29.150 O'clock, we speculate. 03:00:29.160 --> 03:00:29.340 Yeah. 03:00:29.350 --> 03:00:29.790 Research. 03:00:30.250 --> 03:00:32.490 Ohh recirculates yeah. 03:00:32.500 --> 03:00:33.900 Give me anything. We are. 03:00:33.970 --> 03:00:34.180 Yeah. 03:00:34.190 --> 03:00:37.300 So it's just what y'all like. Yep. 03:00:35.710 --> 03:00:38.650 Hey, they can I ask you guys a work related question. 03:00:40.170 --> 03:00:44.470 Uh, yeah, we've got about seven other attendees listening in. 03:00:45.160 --> 03:00:45.870 That's OK. 03:00:48.390 --> 03:00:48.700 Thank you. 03:00:45.880 --> 03:00:51.940 I just want to know if I can possibly expect your comments on the draft RFP by next week. 03:00:53.480 --> 03:00:53.930 Uh, yeah. 03:00:56.000 --> 03:00:57.120 That would be super awesome. 03:00:57.770 --> 03:00:59.870 Like by Monday or like by Wednesday? 03:00:59.590 --> 03:01:00.200 No, no, no. 03:01:00.210 --> 03:01:00.870 By like Friday. 03:01:01.580 --> 03:01:02.670 Well, even better. 03:01:03.470 --> 03:01:05.550 Yeah, if you could do that, I'd truly appreciate it. 03:01:02.720 --> 03:01:06.690 Yes, but she said it's in my notes. 03:01:06.350 --> 03:01:08.590 And I'll reach out to Mike Parker as well. 03:01:09.820 --> 03:01:10.270 All right. 03:01:10.780 --> 03:01:11.730 All right, mark. 03:01:11.780 --> 03:01:12.480 Yeah, no problem. 03:01:13.370 --> 03:01:14.100 All right, awesome. 03:01:14.110 --> 03:01:14.750 Thank you guys. 03:01:15.760 --> 03:01:16.290 And we saw. 03:01:17.380 --> 03:01:18.640 Hi I'm heading out. 03:01:18.680 --> 03:01:19.180 See you. 03:01:19.500 --> 03:01:19.950 You're. 03:01:19.960 --> 03:01:22.100 You're leaving to you because I'm driving? 03:01:22.200 --> 03:01:23.550 Yeah, I think that's wise. 03:01:24.320 --> 03:01:30.430 So, are there any topics that people who are online I want to touch on that we haven't touched on yet? 03:01:30.640 --> 03:01:38.060 I mean, that's the way we have some, but 250, we've got 7 people in attending online. 03:01:38.300 --> 03:01:40.790 Did you see what I'm gonna just? 03:01:41.880 --> 03:01:44.500 See my get a problem skin. 03:01:45.230 --> 03:01:47.440 Uh, they want at least attorney. 03:01:47.450 --> 03:01:48.980 You've never been short the words. 03:01:49.090 --> 03:01:52.410 I'm not in this, not the least of shared ride me. 03:01:52.420 --> 03:01:55.140 You want 25 by two charge $30. 03:01:57.490 --> 03:01:59.970 But Megan was trying to move us towards. 03:02:03.160 --> 03:02:04.240 Up the hierarchy. 03:02:06.950 --> 03:02:10.800 And we started talking about reuse, should do it. 03:02:10.810 --> 03:02:11.160 I don't know. 03:02:12.690 --> 03:02:13.130 Go home. 03:02:15.140 --> 03:02:20.000 You have some questions here about uh, we filling, I don't know. 03:02:20.010 --> 03:02:24.860 I don't know who's on the line, so I don't know if we're talking to here and what they might want to contribute. 03:02:24.870 --> 03:02:25.860 I know, I know. What? 03:02:25.870 --> 03:02:30.370 I've no idea what they want to talk about, and you guys could chime in. 03:02:31.400 --> 03:02:35.120 That would be great that you speak. 03:02:38.810 --> 03:02:39.750 And no. 03:02:42.160 --> 03:02:43.250 Brian got anything to say? 03:02:48.370 --> 03:02:48.750 Jessica. 03:02:49.720 --> 03:02:50.470 Yeah. 03:02:50.660 --> 03:02:59.140 Well, so why don't we what were the last few items that were on our discussion list that we haven't talked about? 03:03:01.020 --> 03:03:10.780 So yeah, moving up the hierarchy here, we've got so the in the sort of reuse section in addition to the Catholic Charities stuff. 03:03:11.990 --> 03:03:16.110 Umm, we are wondering about. 03:03:16.120 --> 03:03:20.500 We heard about there's a store in Presque Isle that does fill your own. 03:03:21.450 --> 03:03:21.990 Umm. 03:03:22.990 --> 03:03:24.120 Soaps and stuff. 03:03:24.400 --> 03:03:32.760 We're wondering if there are other categories of uh items that my work well for reuse. 03:03:33.840 --> 03:03:43.990 Umm we have, you know, global items that are used frequently with potential to return Halifax, potentially beer bottles. 03:03:45.770 --> 03:04:00.560 Does anyone have any ideas on on items that or is anyone currently participating in any reuse systems that are sort of that refill model of I buy this from you? 03:04:00.570 --> 03:04:01.160 I use it up. 03:04:01.170 --> 03:04:04.180 I bring it back and I buy the same thing and use the same container. 03:04:09.720 --> 03:04:11.800 But he chasers right now. 03:04:12.620 --> 03:04:12.800 Yeah. 03:04:16.240 --> 03:04:17.990 OK, keep going. 03:04:18.000 --> 03:04:24.050 I guess we got, we got one, we get something there, it is, Jackie. 03:04:23.590 --> 03:04:25.260 I think I was still a presenter. 03:04:26.850 --> 03:04:27.330 Question. 03:04:25.270 --> 03:04:28.350 I'm sorry this is cat by the way. 03:04:31.620 --> 03:04:32.620 My pretty ship. 03:04:28.360 --> 03:04:36.870 In case you didn't actually pick me, uh, with the refillable thing, what happened to water dispensers? 03:04:36.950 --> 03:04:39.890 You know that you know the the coin operated ones. 03:04:39.900 --> 03:04:44.890 I mean, when I was attending new mane, everything was sodas, right? 03:04:45.000 --> 03:04:52.330 And you pay a buck and 1/4 for a distante gourmet water, and then you still have the damn bottle to take care of, you know? 03:04:52.340 --> 03:04:55.460 So umm, what's wrong with doing that? 03:04:55.550 --> 03:05:01.820 You know, having those in grocery stores and convenience stores, there's $8.6 million. 03:05:01.990 --> 03:05:10.200 I'm tapped in unused returnable funds that we with the bottle bill that became apparent. 03:05:10.210 --> 03:05:23.430 I had no idea that that many bottles and cans or beverage containers were not being returned, so maybe that money could be reverted into a into a no. 03:05:23.780 --> 03:05:28.050 These efforts, you know, since you're looking for funding, that money is just sitting idle. 03:05:28.480 --> 03:05:42.710 So maybe that was some would be a resource that people could tap into to try to get funding for water dispensers or other types of returnables Dunkin Donuts used to fill your coffee mug for you. 03:05:42.720 --> 03:05:46.850 But they don't do that anymore, you know, they fell a Styrofoam cup. 03:05:46.960 --> 03:05:50.020 Then they poured in your travel mug and then they throw the cup away. 03:05:50.900 --> 03:05:52.770 So something's gotta change. 03:05:52.860 --> 03:05:53.490 We gotta do better. 03:05:54.510 --> 03:05:54.960 Thank you. 03:05:56.910 --> 03:05:57.250 Thank you. 03:05:54.480 --> 03:05:57.420 No. Sure it got. I'll. 03:05:57.870 --> 03:06:11.830 Yeah, I'll actually pipe in about the the whole sheets thing says there's been this legislative session has been a, but the bottle bill program updating has been a big issue. 03:06:13.620 --> 03:06:18.560 And we expect that a bill's gonna come through that will make some major changes. 03:06:29.440 --> 03:06:29.770 Wow. 03:06:33.730 --> 03:06:34.590 Beverage companies. 03:06:18.570 --> 03:06:54.760 And one of the so the whole the the unredeemed, unredeemed nickels, right now they were given I'll say given they were allowed to be kept by the the the beverage companies as a a means to make them comingle uh so that they the system would be easier and there wouldn't be all these many sorts and the only sheets that were being kept with by the one companies that didn't commingle and those did go to the state but with the. 03:06:56.490 --> 03:07:01.620 This new updating the sheets it's gonna make everybody comingle. 03:07:01.630 --> 03:07:11.030 So the the sheets that were the state was getting and going to the general fund are gonna now go back all to the manufacturers so. 03:07:14.240 --> 03:07:14.590 Yeah. 03:07:14.600 --> 03:07:23.220 So unfortunately, that's not really a gonna be a big source of money for that type of thing, but but there is there in the bill, there was some. 03:07:23.380 --> 03:07:26.390 Uh, money being put towards looking into. 03:07:27.700 --> 03:07:36.620 Refillables for the why won't we won't have for a possible refillable system and just kind of interesting. 03:07:36.630 --> 03:07:43.060 I didn't realize that Dunkin Donuts and others were no longer refilling travel cups anymore. 03:07:43.110 --> 03:07:47.580 I was that kind of because of the COVID thing or the that something that just kind of stopped doing. 03:07:49.480 --> 03:07:52.550 No, I've got a comment from Jackie Elliott. 03:07:55.170 --> 03:07:55.440 Yes. 03:07:55.450 --> 03:07:56.050 Can you hear me? 03:07:56.770 --> 03:07:57.040 Yes. 03:07:57.980 --> 03:07:58.790 Thank you. 03:07:58.960 --> 03:08:07.190 UM, I'm just looking down under the opportunities for improvement and I've kind of gotten stuck on the deconstruction piece. 03:08:07.880 --> 03:08:12.500 Wondering where are we overall in the state? 03:08:14.040 --> 03:08:20.710 I know construction and demolition debris is a real challenge in the way stream. 03:08:21.400 --> 03:08:26.710 Umm, so how do we feel where we're at at this point? 03:08:26.720 --> 03:08:38.480 And do we have any really active pieces going to move us in a direction that's a little more sustainable than what we're currently doing? 03:08:39.580 --> 03:08:40.060 Thank you. 03:08:42.350 --> 03:08:48.110 I can answer part of that and interestingly we just ohh it. 03:08:48.780 --> 03:09:09.270 We actually received a a proposal from a company that's rehabbing wood that's recovered from other other structures down in southern Maine and also things like old big old trees that are urban trees that tend to get shocked. 03:09:10.210 --> 03:09:13.120 Umm, so there's some movement to that. 03:09:13.410 --> 03:09:19.890 They felt to actually achieve their award this round, but they'll be back next round. 03:09:20.790 --> 03:09:21.150 Umm. 03:09:21.530 --> 03:09:23.480 Otherwise, I think we're pretty frustrated. 03:09:24.430 --> 03:09:47.800 Uh, my experience is running the a demolition landfill in Mid Coast Maine and I virtually charged nothing for lumber that was clean and we charged 100 bucks a ton for mixed stuff and it all came in mixed it for the people out there doing the deconstruction. 03:09:47.970 --> 03:09:50.280 Well, demolition, they're not deconstructed. 03:09:51.660 --> 03:09:55.380 Time is money and they just and they're passing on the cost. 03:09:56.440 --> 03:10:00.200 So it's it's difficult, it's a difficult left on that one. 03:10:01.860 --> 03:10:06.870 I believe we heard there's a there's a company out of gardener that doesn't barns. 03:10:06.940 --> 03:10:07.180 That's. 03:10:07.190 --> 03:10:08.470 So that's who you're talking about. 03:10:10.330 --> 03:10:15.460 You know, the Catholic Charities woman said that she received some material. 03:10:15.470 --> 03:10:28.340 I know there haven't had for humanity restores do a little bit umm I believe there are a couple of entities in Portland that do a little bit, but it's not a lot. 03:10:28.350 --> 03:10:29.600 It's not much. 03:10:29.810 --> 03:10:44.270 I think there I think there is something that you're seeing start to happen in other parts of the country a little bit and and I think in those cases it tends to be the result of local ordinances that. 03:10:47.870 --> 03:11:05.650 Because of a desire to maintain word historic character or because of a desire to limit, you know, urban emissions of, you know, when they knocked down a building, you're creating a really nasty emission air emissions situation. 03:11:06.330 --> 03:11:14.500 Umm, so there are some ordinances going in that are are requiring that that deconstruction. 03:11:14.910 --> 03:11:19.150 But I think as far as I know that's and that's not in the state of Maine. 03:11:20.130 --> 03:11:24.110 Uh, but I think that's how it's moving in, in other parts of the country. 03:11:25.070 --> 03:11:33.530 And sorry, I'm done and so another thing that I was at a webinar recently and there were two states. 03:11:33.540 --> 03:11:34.330 No quote me on that. 03:11:34.340 --> 03:11:35.930 And he was Oregon and Washington state. 03:11:37.210 --> 03:11:38.980 One was having problems. 03:11:39.330 --> 03:11:53.580 The deconstruction crews did not wanna sell but didn't wanted to stays because they had to get the wood recertified for building the other state passed the law and says that the wood is sound and it's older than a certain age. 03:11:54.110 --> 03:11:55.230 There were no fees. 03:11:55.240 --> 03:12:01.990 There were no recertification fees and their demolition, they said, was gone like gangbusters compared to the adjacent state. 03:12:02.000 --> 03:12:06.880 Hmm, I don't remember which ones which, but the in between Washington, Oregon. 03:12:06.930 --> 03:12:11.400 And they said that made it huge difference if there are legislation going through that. 03:12:11.840 --> 03:12:12.940 Just thought that was interesting. 03:12:12.990 --> 03:12:13.600 Yeah. 03:12:13.790 --> 03:12:14.400 And maybe part. 03:12:17.720 --> 03:12:20.970 Do you guys do it whenever you guys do longer or just paper? 03:12:21.520 --> 03:12:22.770 We used to do longer. 03:12:23.360 --> 03:12:24.840 We just sold our hundred. 03:12:25.550 --> 03:12:29.220 You know, there's this certification at least. 03:12:30.370 --> 03:12:36.490 But and I mean like for the word for buildability of you know what, rob? 03:12:36.500 --> 03:12:37.260 Stop referring to. 03:12:39.070 --> 03:12:39.530 Good morning. 03:12:41.330 --> 03:12:41.950 I'd be interested. 03:12:49.450 --> 03:12:51.300 But yeah, pretty big source of waste prop. 03:12:51.310 --> 03:12:56.300 We think right, Brandy before the sentences, I think it's office. 03:13:02.280 --> 03:13:02.760 What was that? 03:13:04.070 --> 03:13:07.010 Do you remember how much of the waste stream is CD? 03:13:11.550 --> 03:13:12.530 It's it's big. 03:13:08.140 --> 03:13:13.600 I don't remember, but actually well, yeah, hold on. 03:13:13.610 --> 03:13:16.460 I got to actually got the I do have the waste generation report opened up. 03:13:16.470 --> 03:13:16.750 Hold up. 03:13:34.580 --> 03:13:41.020 You have any thoughts on on how to divert that stuff, Jackie or anyone else? 03:13:43.590 --> 03:13:44.450 I will charge it. 03:13:46.550 --> 03:13:48.670 No, not specifically. 03:13:49.660 --> 03:13:49.810 Yeah. 03:13:49.380 --> 03:13:55.490 Umm, I just I realize it's a problem aspect of the waste stream. 03:13:55.500 --> 03:13:58.290 Overall, my concerns. 03:13:59.110 --> 03:13:59.910 Uh. 03:13:59.990 --> 03:14:07.380 Focus a great deal on the toxics that are a potential from that way stream. 03:14:07.860 --> 03:14:11.370 Recognizing that that complicates management of it. 03:14:12.520 --> 03:14:31.920 Umm, generally speaking I have a real problem for with it being ground up and used for alternate daily cover on our landfills because that just is potential to introduce a lot of toxic inputs into whatever leachate is generated. 03:14:33.060 --> 03:14:40.040 I I definitely have a preference to focus on front end solutions around waste. 03:14:41.540 --> 03:14:54.430 Handling as opposed to trying to figure out an end of pipe approach that actually gets a job done in a way that is not going to be problematic overall. 03:14:55.400 --> 03:14:56.750 So I was just I. 03:14:56.840 --> 03:15:06.450 I was just wondering where the state was in their efforts around handling that part of the waste stream. 03:15:07.230 --> 03:15:08.120 So thank you. 03:15:10.540 --> 03:15:13.280 That you're able to speak now? 03:15:14.370 --> 03:15:16.270 I'm just gonna leave you out there as a presenter. 03:15:17.910 --> 03:15:18.620 Sorry. 03:15:19.640 --> 03:15:27.200 Hi, Jackie, Jackie and I are frenemies, so we've had debates for the last couple of weeks now on all this stuff. 03:15:27.210 --> 03:15:30.180 So I'm glad to see her putting her two cents in. 03:15:31.170 --> 03:15:37.420 Just so you know, drywall Sheetrock is an excellent soil amendment. 03:15:37.950 --> 03:15:49.770 If you take the painted side off, if it's unpainted, you can shred it up or crumble it up, or just spread it on your property and and plow it under and it is an excellent, excellent, excellent soil amendment. 03:15:50.060 --> 03:16:00.070 If you have somebody who can strip off the pain inside, all you gotta do if you've ever used drywall before, it rips really easily, especially when you don't want it to. 03:16:00.440 --> 03:16:08.600 And I think that that could be a way of redirecting just that part of the CD out of the way stream. 03:16:08.670 --> 03:16:22.600 I'm not quite sure how you could do it and you know my recommendations for local control could have storage for these materials don't have to necessarily be in a transfer station. 03:16:22.810 --> 03:16:26.620 You know, some lumberyard or a farmer or a builder? 03:16:26.660 --> 03:16:33.140 Have you ever watched Maine Cabin Masters chase saves everything that they demolish a house from? 03:16:33.150 --> 03:16:35.580 Is his crew joke about it? 03:16:35.590 --> 03:16:48.610 You know that he doesn't let anything get thrown away, but there's something to be said for that because they make a lot of money taking stuff out of chases, junk file and putting it in a camp and the the owners think it's quaint. 03:16:48.680 --> 03:17:01.700 So there I think that there is a market for that, but really I think that the focus should be on a public service that that waste should not be for profit or waste management should not be for profit. 03:17:01.810 --> 03:17:11.900 It should be seen as an essential service and I think that you get a lot more traction as which equates to money from the federal and the state government. 03:17:12.170 --> 03:17:17.460 If you can, I guess bring that home rather than privatization. 03:17:18.280 --> 03:17:18.960 So thank you. 03:17:21.260 --> 03:17:22.130 Like you had a comment. 03:17:23.430 --> 03:17:24.340 I did. 03:17:24.350 --> 03:17:27.940 It's regarding the drywall being used as a soil amendment. 03:17:29.470 --> 03:17:29.680 To the. 03:17:28.390 --> 03:17:52.890 We went through this quite quite a bit during my time in the residuals program when I was a sludge guy and we did quite a bit of research and there are enough negatives, including a lot of the older drywall contains arsenic and other contaminants that would build up in the soil that we decided not to allow that as a use that would get a permit under the sludge and residuals utilization unit. 03:17:53.340 --> 03:18:04.660 So I just wanted to throw it out there just just so that people knew that that's not a authorized use of material just because of the potential for contaminations. 03:18:07.270 --> 03:18:07.880 Thanks mark. 03:18:08.860 --> 03:18:10.210 Didn't mean to bust your bubble there. 03:18:10.220 --> 03:18:10.580 I'm sorry. 03:18:11.860 --> 03:18:12.790 No, that's OK. 03:18:12.800 --> 03:18:23.170 I understand there's a lot of materials from old buildings that have arsenic and lead, and you know, and they are a problem then in construction off and on all my life. 03:18:23.180 --> 03:18:25.090 And and I'm remodeling my house. 03:18:25.200 --> 03:18:29.890 So I'm very familiar with how being able to dispose of things. 03:18:30.060 --> 03:18:35.190 The problem is when you bury Sheetrock it creates toxic gases. 03:18:35.720 --> 03:18:37.560 You know, if you could somehow. 03:18:39.260 --> 03:18:46.740 Use it even ground up as say daily cover or some other type of use. 03:18:46.850 --> 03:18:59.800 I understand that it would have to be tested to find out, but we've lost trust with the farmers, with the whole P fest thing because of the sludge that they were told was safe and they were spreading on their properties. 03:18:59.810 --> 03:19:01.380 And now we have this. 03:19:01.810 --> 03:19:20.590 We have this existential problem basically with our farmers, and I recently looked at a survey that was sent out about what people thought we could do to remediate this problem, and a lot of the questions really didn't seem to I don't know, it was a lot of homework, let's put it that way. 03:19:20.600 --> 03:19:24.390 You had to look up what the rules were and then you had to make comments on it. 03:19:24.400 --> 03:19:38.800 And I don't think most people would participate in something like that, but it's a good question to bring up at these meetings because a lot of people like myself, who live in rural areas, solve these problems ourselves, like the the scrap metal thing. 03:19:39.710 --> 03:19:43.200 My neighbor, Wes, he everyone has a scrap metal pile, you know? 03:19:43.290 --> 03:19:45.000 And he does have a source for that. 03:19:45.010 --> 03:19:56.340 So I texted him and asked him where he sends his scrap metal and if and he's a a forest Ranger, so he's territories up here in Springfield and that area. 03:19:56.350 --> 03:20:01.170 So he might know of some source up there and I'd be happy to pass that information on. 03:20:01.980 --> 03:20:02.900 Your cat dog. 03:20:02.910 --> 03:20:07.430 Let me just address also the ground up material being used as a DC. 03:20:16.350 --> 03:20:16.650 Right. 03:20:08.020 --> 03:20:30.130 We also had our experiences with that and storing a pile of it results in the release of hydrogen sulfide gas, and when bath used it as alternative daily cover, it created such a toxic cloud that we had to evacuate the communities around the landfill until I could put compost over the areas that were leaking so that we could act as a biofilter. 03:20:34.480 --> 03:20:34.820 Hmm. 03:20:30.480 --> 03:20:39.080 So the drywall is just a really tough nut to crack, but it it just can't be disposed of unless it's buried very deep in a landfill. 03:20:47.610 --> 03:20:47.880 Umm. 03:20:50.530 --> 03:20:50.690 Yes. 03:20:39.090 --> 03:20:54.570 It cannot be used as alternative daily cover for sure, so it definitely is a tough one and eventually we'll reach some point where it'll be manufactured in such a way that it's recyclable, but until until it's cost effective to do so, it's just not gonna happen. 03:20:55.280 --> 03:20:57.090 Yeah, I like Jackie says. 03:20:57.160 --> 03:21:05.370 Approach it at the front end and we've got legislation now about toxic chemicals being put into products and how we have to, you know, California's been doing this for years. 03:21:05.380 --> 03:21:17.650 Years they get a little anal about it, but you know they are a big state and there's a lot of people that don't follow the rules and and so they have to be pretty hard on people as far as regulations go. 03:21:18.240 --> 03:21:19.570 But yeah, thanks, Mark. 03:21:19.580 --> 03:21:20.350 I appreciate that. 03:21:20.360 --> 03:21:28.480 I just, you know, I just kind of frustrates me as a farmer and I grew up on a farm that we please spread our manure and now the dairy farms are all gone. 03:21:28.490 --> 03:21:32.240 So you don't see huge manure piles like we used to see. 03:21:32.830 --> 03:21:37.540 You know the small loggers now are getting cut off from the mills. 03:21:37.550 --> 03:21:46.480 They're they're loads are sitting drying, so they're losing money even as their wood dries, they can't sell as much to the mills anymore. 03:21:46.680 --> 03:21:54.640 And yet here we have along the roads where the buffer zone between the road and the cutting areas of of woodlots. 03:21:55.500 --> 03:22:09.990 Has to have like a a screen you know and so all along that that buffer zone between the road and the and the actual cutting there are dead, diseased and damaged trees that are waiting to be cleared out. 03:22:10.000 --> 03:22:11.310 They're nothing but a fire hazard. 03:22:11.320 --> 03:22:21.890 They do nothing but spread invasive species, but there should be a way to kind of incentivize people, small loggers, to get that out, you know, and take it to some place where it can be chipped. 03:22:22.230 --> 03:22:27.360 And then that could be used as daily cover, because once the invasive the the. 03:22:34.910 --> 03:22:35.340 There's no. 03:22:28.570 --> 03:22:40.620 ACF was saying that to stop the spread of invasive species, they banned firewood and I talked to Allison connote a year ago and asked her where are the maps that show the invasive species? 03:22:42.620 --> 03:22:43.620 It's exactly. 03:22:40.930 --> 03:22:45.150 And so she said, well, we've got a web guy and he's going to be working on that this year. 03:22:45.160 --> 03:22:54.140 And they just recently came out with these maps that show one that I sent to Robert Burke was the emerald ash borer. 03:22:54.290 --> 03:22:57.710 And if you look at that map, you will see it's like a wake of a boat. 03:22:59.040 --> 03:22:59.690 I can't remember. 03:22:58.920 --> 03:23:02.640 All the landfills are at the center and Juniper Ridge is at the tip. 03:23:07.390 --> 03:23:07.560 Right. 03:23:03.580 --> 03:23:10.690 Recently, Argyle, which doesn't show as as a quarantine zone on the map, has been designated a quarantine zone. 03:23:16.860 --> 03:23:17.950 So I I can't hear you. 03:23:10.880 --> 03:23:20.730 So my neighbor, who has a small wood lot, can sell his wood across the river to someone in Milford, but he can't sell it to somebody in Greenbush, which is just the next town up from Milford. 03:23:21.270 --> 03:23:21.580 Hmm. 03:23:21.240 --> 03:23:32.110 So yeah, so we're looking at landfills, especially imported waste coming into the state and construction and demolition debris coming in from out of state or even from southern Maine or any quarantine area. 03:23:32.240 --> 03:23:35.710 We're looking at that spreading the invasive species. 03:23:39.700 --> 03:23:40.050 It wouldn't. 03:23:40.670 --> 03:23:41.030 That's in. 03:23:36.320 --> 03:23:49.510 So I think again with my Northern Maine recommendations of localization that Southern Maine really has to be, you know, separated from waste management in northern Maine. 03:23:49.220 --> 03:23:49.650 That's right. 03:23:49.520 --> 03:23:52.490 Otherwise, we're gonna end up with the entire state. 03:23:52.790 --> 03:23:53.570 Like what is it? 03:23:53.580 --> 03:24:04.900 The pine beetle doesn't even have a quarantine zone anymore because it's considered everywhere and so pretty soon somebody's going to throw away a deer carcass with chronic wasting disease on a New Jersey landfill. 03:24:05.170 --> 03:24:07.340 We're gonna end up with it and there goes our dear hurts. 03:24:07.830 --> 03:24:08.150 Umm. 03:24:08.030 --> 03:24:11.720 So yeah, so there's a lot, it's a lot of work. 03:24:11.830 --> 03:24:13.860 I understand that you know, and I'm old. 03:24:13.870 --> 03:24:31.970 So you know, I probably won't live to see it, but the whole point is that I think distribution or or spreading the the burden across the state rather than having these major landfills like Juniper Ridge and Crossroads, I would benefit the people of Maine. 03:24:31.980 --> 03:24:39.670 I think you'd get people more involved if they could go to a local station, you know, if they could go back to the dump, you know, and you could even market it like that. 03:24:38.580 --> 03:24:40.710 You give, you give you explore. 03:24:39.680 --> 03:24:42.730 Say let's bring back the dump and have people. 03:24:42.960 --> 03:24:46.890 I mean, it could be like a constant yard sale for people. 03:24:51.220 --> 03:24:51.580 Not really. 03:24:47.040 --> 03:24:53.920 And I'll tell you, if you've ever been behind somebody who sees a yard sale on the road, then your life is in, you know, at risk. 03:24:57.250 --> 03:24:57.450 So the. 03:24:53.960 --> 03:24:58.970 So I think that that it could be a good solution and it could be organic, right? 03:24:58.980 --> 03:25:10.940 And no pun intended that it could develop organically with each town and have competitions have have rewards for good stewardship and penalties for poor stewardship. 03:25:10.990 --> 03:25:14.080 Give people prizes for ideas and innovation. 03:25:14.090 --> 03:25:27.370 I know that's part of the grant process for DEP and such, but I I think it needs to be more on a Community level because you just have people that are disinterested in recycling or even taking things hazardous. 03:25:27.380 --> 03:25:32.350 Waste and digital equipment to the store at $5 a gallon for gas. 03:25:32.440 --> 03:25:39.630 You're just not gonna get the rural people to get involved with that and and quite honestly, we're not the culprits in this. 03:25:39.740 --> 03:25:48.040 We are not the major generators of MSW, so I don't think that I think we need to find local solutions for the local people. 03:25:48.470 --> 03:25:53.890 And then the urban areas, they can just charge more money, you know, and take care of their own problems. 03:25:55.840 --> 03:26:00.000 Sorry if you live in Portland or some other urban area so. 03:26:02.790 --> 03:26:04.110 All for one and one for all. 03:26:06.200 --> 03:26:09.350 Well, you'd be surprised at what people will get on board with. 03:26:09.420 --> 03:26:11.280 You know, we're local. 03:26:11.340 --> 03:26:15.550 My family business was Taylors Bait and I used to deliver bait all over the state. 03:26:15.560 --> 03:26:26.890 So I'm very familiar with a lot of the rural areas up north of me and I live in Argyle, which is an unorganized Township and right at the bottom of a right to the bottom of the north. 03:26:26.900 --> 03:26:33.070 I guess you would say and we would put jars out when someone's house would burn down or someone got sick. 03:26:33.120 --> 03:26:36.280 You put jars out by the cash register and everybody tosses money in there. 03:26:36.670 --> 03:26:53.740 Now this is the old version of crowdfunding and I think that if you market it right, if you get people involved in and let them know that what they do makes a difference just in in their own communities that they will get on board with it. 03:26:55.650 --> 03:26:57.520 It's the mentality of the rurals. 03:26:59.760 --> 03:27:00.430 So what are they? 03:26:57.610 --> 03:27:01.780 So you know, OK, go ahead. 03:27:02.560 --> 03:27:14.110 Sorry, I I just you made me think one of our questions that we haven't gotten to was you know what are the best ways, what are the best, you know, avenues for this education and out? 03:27:16.310 --> 03:27:18.260 Well, we're already doing it here in Alton. 03:27:18.270 --> 03:27:27.500 The Alton Grammar School has a garden, you know, and they take kids outside and they show them the but they're small school. 03:27:27.570 --> 03:27:31.040 Again, I don't know what you would do on a large scale. 03:27:31.190 --> 03:27:53.130 You know, my experience is, is the rural name, but when you grow up with people and you see them in grammar school and you see them in high school and you graduate from college with them, you know you have a relationship, sometimes contentious, but, you know, still like you say, Mark, we're all in this together. 03:27:53.580 --> 03:28:01.470 And I think if you start getting the local people to talk to each other rather than the state, you know the state is great. 03:28:01.480 --> 03:28:06.250 But you know you've got this format where you're all sitting in a room and you all know each other, which is great. 03:28:06.320 --> 03:28:22.280 But we don't know you or some of us know some of you, but still it comes, it hits home when you show up in in instead of staying in Augusta and talking over technology which keep in mind most of the stake in the rural areas, does not yet have broadband. 03:28:23.520 --> 03:28:32.510 So if you go there and you have a town meeting, people will show up and don't have it from 2 to 6 because people are at work, you know? 03:28:32.580 --> 03:28:41.910 Go on a weekend or go in the evenings or make several attempts to do something in the area instead of just a one off. 03:28:42.220 --> 03:28:44.610 I plan and this is fair warning for you guys. 03:28:44.820 --> 03:28:48.930 I plan to attend remotely every one of these five stakeholder meetings. 03:28:48.940 --> 03:28:51.420 The only one I plan to go to in person is or. 03:28:51.430 --> 03:28:57.040 No, because it's my joining Brown and I have a personal connection to Orono. 03:28:57.430 --> 03:29:03.720 So people will chime in, they will contribute. 03:29:03.910 --> 03:29:19.190 When I attended the MRC meeting today, I was stirring the pot a little bit with Karen and a kind of brought up the fact that the MRC tried to put a dump in our goal about nine years ago and we defeated it and she thought kind of up at E and said, well, what's your question? 03:29:20.290 --> 03:30:06.040 I said, well like question is if you exhaust current landfills like Juniper Ridge which is now unstable and catches fire and Crossroads landfill, which recently got an expansion half a mile down the road from its its current landfill which I don't understand why that constitutes the same landfill then are you going to advocate more large scale landfills that large entities like Cassella and the Municipal Review Committee with their coastal resources plant take advantage of because it makes them money if we never take the money out of waste management then we will always be as Jackie says dealing with the problems at the at the end of the pipe. 03:30:06.620 --> 03:30:12.610 You know you have to start with education, but of course, that's not gonna take care of now. 03:30:13.000 --> 03:30:20.850 So now what we need to do is the carrot and the stick, you know, give them the carrot for good behavior and the stick for bad behavior. 03:30:21.200 --> 03:30:26.230 Give them the opportunity to do right, you know, and stop making it a chore. 03:30:26.360 --> 03:30:32.790 You know a problem that everyone has to solve every week when they have to put their waste out by the curbside. 03:30:32.880 --> 03:30:40.340 I'm the firm believer that curbside pickup is a problem, except for bulky waste spring and fall clean up. 03:30:40.430 --> 03:30:51.640 This gives people the opportunity to get rid of their furniture or their old television, or their old whatever, you know, but still the two good to toss is someone was saying this. 03:30:51.650 --> 03:30:52.990 I think it was the pickle lady. 03:30:53.000 --> 03:30:54.320 You know the food bank lady. 03:30:54.330 --> 03:31:01.880 And I'm sorry, I don't remember her name, but she was saying these old ladies were hauling away 5 gallons of Pickles, you know, because she got them. 03:31:01.890 --> 03:31:07.220 So we find uses for things my mother used to take old clothes and braid rugs out of them. 03:31:07.230 --> 03:31:18.870 I still have some, you know, and there you really need to tap into the rural collective knowledge because we have solutions. 03:31:18.880 --> 03:31:22.220 If anyone cares to listen, thank you. 03:31:23.570 --> 03:31:23.970 Thank you. 03:31:28.230 --> 03:31:28.600 Actually. 03:31:31.330 --> 03:31:31.900 He's back. 03:31:32.230 --> 03:31:33.560 Jackie, you can speak. 03:31:33.730 --> 03:31:34.280 I don't. 03:31:34.330 --> 03:31:35.720 You're already a presenter. 03:31:35.640 --> 03:31:36.510 Thank you. 03:31:36.860 --> 03:31:37.670 Thank you. 03:31:38.620 --> 03:31:43.690 Just getting back to the front end a bit here and the conversation. 03:31:44.120 --> 03:31:45.130 Ohh excuse me. 03:31:45.140 --> 03:31:46.090 My phone? 03:31:46.100 --> 03:31:48.300 Of course. Umm. 03:31:50.650 --> 03:32:13.850 I OK recycled the vert all of these terms are important, but I think we have to adjust our thinking a little bit and this is a hard topic to approach because it strikes fear in the heart of people that Oh my gosh, they're trying to send us back to the dark ages. 03:32:15.080 --> 03:32:33.550 But we really do have to make it an important part of the conversation, the need to reduce the amount of waste that we generate in the 1st place. 03:32:33.560 --> 03:32:36.780 Waste is a verb. 03:32:37.030 --> 03:32:38.740 It is a choice we make. 03:32:40.190 --> 03:32:43.030 Waste is not waste until we waste it. 03:32:45.530 --> 03:32:49.760 We we need to adjust the conversation to realign our thinking. 03:32:49.770 --> 03:32:50.100 To what? 03:32:50.110 --> 03:33:20.830 The reality is because we are not going to get to technology and end of pipe remedies around all of this in time to offset the damage that has been done and continues to work occur, we have to face real reality that what we are doing is unsustainable on just about every level. 03:33:21.520 --> 03:33:26.150 Let me just say I've appreciated hearing some of the input by Mr. 03:33:26.160 --> 03:33:26.740 King today. 03:33:27.680 --> 03:33:39.090 Umm, I appreciate his attention to details and I get the impression he's definitely trying to drive things in a in a a good direction. 03:33:39.100 --> 03:33:40.960 So I I'm encouraged by that. 03:33:41.980 --> 03:33:51.060 But you know, just think this magic tech or we can recycle our way out of the mess we're in. 03:33:51.070 --> 03:33:52.650 And let's face it, we're in a mess. 03:33:53.940 --> 03:34:13.940 Umm is generous and I think I just wonder if we started communicating to the public from a basis of honesty about we really need to change what we're doing people because it's literally killing us when you get to the bottom line. 03:34:15.850 --> 03:34:21.620 And perhaps that might be a way of engaging people. 03:34:23.090 --> 03:34:30.880 Umm, I'm not sure I'm buying totally that there's a complete dichotomy with rural and urban needs. 03:34:31.390 --> 03:34:47.840 I do believe yes, there needs to be a certain tailoring of responses to those situations just because of collection issues and that sort of thing and certain economies of scale in order to to implement certain activities. 03:34:47.850 --> 03:34:51.670 But I this is a statewide problem. 03:34:54.080 --> 03:34:56.680 We're all facing it regardless of where we live. 03:34:58.530 --> 03:35:02.370 So I I maybe we need to rethink our conversation a little bit. 03:35:03.510 --> 03:35:11.540 Uh to reflect more of the reality of what it is we're we're actually facing and I'll shut up. 03:35:13.260 --> 03:35:15.000 I do you have any thoughts on? 03:35:16.540 --> 03:35:25.410 On the the the method the the communication method umm. 03:35:25.240 --> 03:35:38.230 Well, I agree with cat in that I think this half there has to be a real generation of education effort on a very local basis. 03:35:38.760 --> 03:35:44.330 So however, that can be organized and implemented, and I do and I do. 03:35:44.440 --> 03:35:45.910 You know what I mean? 03:35:45.920 --> 03:35:58.960 Yes, face to face is a great and and that's important because a lot of people don't have technology but utilize any medium you have with which to connect and communicate in an effective way. 03:35:59.830 --> 03:36:08.740 And as you have done today, allow for it to be a two way exchange. 03:36:08.970 --> 03:36:11.180 You bring the public information. 03:36:11.190 --> 03:36:24.080 The public has an opportunity to give you feedback, ask questions to introduce you to what they conceive problems to be that perhaps, maybe you haven't thought about. 03:36:25.460 --> 03:36:38.830 I just see this as a a very important and a large conversation that has to occur in any way that we can do that would be a good effort. 03:36:43.190 --> 03:36:44.790 Making canned a presenter. 03:36:49.730 --> 03:36:50.670 Then you're a presenter. 03:36:53.640 --> 03:36:54.470 You're also muted. 03:36:56.200 --> 03:36:56.900 Can you hear me now? 03:36:57.690 --> 03:36:58.250 Yes, yes. 03:36:59.780 --> 03:37:00.130 Wow. 03:37:00.140 --> 03:37:08.690 Work better this time than last time, so in the in the light of the the more recent conversation or comments? 03:37:09.600 --> 03:37:28.050 Umm, I've been trying for five years now to to get DEP to address solar panel recycling and even though there's been bills in the legislature that that support that they've all been shot down and that's pretty frustrating. 03:37:28.060 --> 03:37:31.980 That, as far as I know, there is a one bill left in this legislature. 03:37:33.180 --> 03:37:33.650 Uh. 03:37:34.620 --> 03:37:36.340 Submitted by Dave. 03:37:39.330 --> 03:37:39.740 Woodman. 03:37:40.830 --> 03:37:52.460 Uh to study the recycling of solar panels and I I'm frustrated because I I've been trying for four years to get a grant from the. 03:37:55.070 --> 03:38:16.840 And SF to to not only create the process for recycling, but also to to develop a a recycling methodology throughout the state, which would include transporting or picking up used panels, damage panels and and disposing in the of them in a way that they can. 03:38:16.850 --> 03:38:28.980 The materials can be actually recycled, including the 5% of solar panels, which are are problematic, they cadmium Telluride and and lead and and what have you. 03:38:30.120 --> 03:38:36.270 So I'm frustrated because I've been trying to do that and I've just gotten rejection and and after rejection. 03:38:36.280 --> 03:38:47.230 And Brian, you're aware of this, this is not a new conversation for you, but when it when is the department going to get serious about recycling solar panels? 03:38:47.640 --> 03:38:55.300 Cause to get it down to the to the near 0I harmful impact is expensive. 03:38:55.530 --> 03:39:01.070 The University of Arizona has it down to about 99% of the materials can be recovered. 03:39:02.260 --> 03:39:04.040 Uh, but it's expensive to do that. 03:39:05.130 --> 03:39:07.090 It's harmful to just leave. 03:39:08.400 --> 03:39:17.850 Uh damage solar panels and place because they do Leech, and that Leach is is not much different from Keepass and the harm that can do the soils and the people. 03:39:18.900 --> 03:39:20.240 So here we are. 03:39:20.250 --> 03:39:35.930 We're shipping solar panels all over the state for people to install knowing full well that we then 20 to 25 years is a high high chance that they're going to either get broken by hail or or uh, damage through other atmospheric problems. 03:39:36.890 --> 03:39:52.520 So we're just doing the, the, the PFAS problem all over again with with no stop that from happening and I understand I mean I I what I've heard is that because it's so expensive that would discourage people from installing solar. 03:39:53.030 --> 03:40:12.570 And my answer to that has grown a little bit rougher overtime because So what if we either need to collect the money up front so that we can recycle these panels correctly or we need to stop installing them one or the other because we can't just keep putting the chemicals back out there for waiting for something to happen. 03:40:12.620 --> 03:40:12.840 Open. 03:40:13.660 --> 03:40:23.340 So I'm I apologize if I've been rude in anyway, but I'm gonna continue to be rude until the department decides to actually move that from #5 on there. 03:40:24.480 --> 03:40:27.510 Wait list to to #1 on on the To Do List. 03:40:28.340 --> 03:40:30.380 Umm and. 03:40:32.910 --> 03:40:34.580 Not sure how how to accomplish that. 03:40:34.590 --> 03:40:39.500 I've talked to you, Brian, and gotten nowhere and I've talked to others and got nowhere. 03:40:39.550 --> 03:40:54.580 The legislature this year had four bills about it, and and all but one got shot down and I'm hoping that Dave Woodson study actually comes in comes to fruition because it's an important, very important subject in my eyes. 03:40:54.900 --> 03:40:55.270 Thank you. 03:40:56.720 --> 03:40:57.310 Thank you, Ken. 03:41:00.130 --> 03:41:01.040 You can shoot me later. 03:41:04.930 --> 03:41:05.410 No way. 03:41:06.380 --> 03:41:07.410 OK, who? 03:41:06.870 --> 03:41:13.680 Yeah, if you keep hanging away again, just need to pay money on the legislature. 03:41:13.690 --> 03:41:15.030 I think at this point for this. 03:41:19.280 --> 03:41:23.210 Yeah, Jackie, you've got your hand up and you are a participant. 03:41:24.070 --> 03:41:25.100 Thank you. 03:41:25.490 --> 03:41:40.920 Ken, thank you so much for those honest comments and umm, you've spoken to one of my recurring nightmares and I just appreciate the efforts that have gone in or around this issue. 03:41:40.930 --> 03:41:47.310 And I do hope we can get somewhere, but I think you raise a really important piece of all of this. 03:41:49.130 --> 03:41:51.580 About your frustration with the department. 03:41:51.650 --> 03:41:52.210 Understood. 03:41:53.100 --> 03:41:58.980 Umm, I think let's let's start the bottom line here. 03:42:01.360 --> 03:42:03.230 We're talking about values. 03:42:03.240 --> 03:42:22.240 I think overall and you it's gonna be an investment, it's going to cost money to do the right thing on the front end or it's going to cost a lot more money on the back end of things to try to clean up the mess that we make if we, if that's even possible. 03:42:22.310 --> 03:42:24.620 I mean, take the pee fast examples. 03:42:25.130 --> 03:42:37.810 I mean, my goodness, there's not enough money in this world to truly remediate what has to happen, if that, even if we can come up with a technology that would actually get rid of these nasty things. 03:42:38.640 --> 03:42:39.270 Umm. 03:42:40.150 --> 03:42:41.610 So let's do some front end work. 03:42:41.620 --> 03:42:43.400 Let's shut off the tap where we can. 03:42:43.410 --> 03:42:50.480 Most of these P fast products are need needless so and there are alternatives that are a more acceptable. 03:42:50.490 --> 03:42:52.200 So let let's get to work on that. 03:43:18.010 --> 03:43:18.310 Right. 03:42:52.210 --> 03:43:27.280 But I think you just you point up the the real need that we have to make the investment the expense of investment, uh, we need people staff in the department we need to fund the activities that the department is responsible for and must oversee that gets to be involved with the legislature because the department cannot do what it's not legally uh permitted to do. 03:43:28.860 --> 03:43:42.420 So there's just a lot of conversation and cooperation working with one another, listening to one another and figuring out the ways to respond. 03:43:42.430 --> 03:43:43.900 And then I'm going to just. 03:43:44.400 --> 03:43:48.510 Yeah, I'll probably get shot to Kim, but we can stand against the wall together. 03:43:50.350 --> 03:44:02.230 We have to call out the for profit interests that have such an undue influence. 03:44:04.010 --> 03:44:10.060 Around the way waste is handled and regulated. 03:44:12.640 --> 03:44:15.760 We can't avoid that conversation because it's real. 03:44:18.040 --> 03:44:25.500 A for profit entity has a whole different goal in mind when they come to the waste stream and what happens to it. 03:44:26.970 --> 03:44:33.640 And for the most part, they pretty much don't care what gets damaged in the process. 03:44:33.650 --> 03:44:37.180 And as a really old woman, I puzzle over that. 03:44:37.190 --> 03:44:41.140 Where do they think they're gonna get away from the damage they've done? 03:44:41.230 --> 03:44:51.150 There was a day, perhaps we could run away to someplace else, but that day's gone because we are talking ubiquitous problems here. 03:44:51.330 --> 03:45:03.050 There is no place to run away, so we're going to have to step up and say no to the for profit interest. 03:45:04.180 --> 03:45:37.730 That really don't have an interest and truly doing the right thing and we've got to find a way to protect our regulatory agencies from that undue influence and our legislatures from that undue influence, because we're talking about the places we call home and we need to come together and protect those places because, uh, future generations depend on it. 03:45:37.740 --> 03:45:39.090 It it's that simple. 03:45:39.140 --> 03:45:51.360 We're we're not doing the job and I'm kind of wonder where the tipping point is, where we have to admit, we'd have no time left to do the job. 03:46:03.360 --> 03:46:04.550 But give something to add. 03:46:05.280 --> 03:46:20.110 I do and and I truly appreciate the comments from both you regarding solar panels, nobody and and I'll speak for Brian Beneski because nobody wants to recycle these more than anybody but us. 03:46:20.400 --> 03:46:25.810 Our group wrestled twice with a proposal that came to the Waste Diversion grant program. 03:46:26.220 --> 03:46:43.420 It was the most horrible proposal that we ever saw and the gentleman was so arrogant that he just he kept jamming at us but couldn't solve the fundamental problem, which was that these things contain materials that are deemed hazardous. 03:46:43.430 --> 03:46:54.880 Waste the minute you put the word hazardous in front of waste, it becomes so exponentially expensive that recycling doesn't even fit the scape. 03:46:55.410 --> 03:47:13.360 And so we need to find a way to deal with the chemicals in an efficient manner, and then the rest of the particles, the, the, the, the cells themselves, the all the containers and all of that, they are recyclable as long as we can show they're no longer hazardous waste. 03:47:13.770 --> 03:47:26.940 But we would love to do it, and unfortunately, there's another part of the DP called the hazardous waste program that really firmly jumps at this stuff and makes it makes it extremely not. 03:47:26.950 --> 03:47:35.990 They're not making it difficult for us, but because the program is run through a federal situation once it's deemed hazardous, it becomes really hard to just recycle. 03:47:36.670 --> 03:47:39.050 And so that's really kind of what we're wrestling with. 03:47:39.390 --> 03:47:41.100 But we do wanna see it happen one day. 03:47:48.410 --> 03:47:52.110 So can I step in and step outside the the discussion a little bit? 03:47:53.750 --> 03:47:54.090 Course. 03:47:54.250 --> 03:48:11.090 Umm, so so when I presented my proposal to to Brian and and somebody before him and I'm not sure who it was pretty clear that the proposal was an all in one solution in that it dealt with all aspects of it. 03:48:11.100 --> 03:48:20.340 It was based on probably the leading legislation in the in the the United States on recycling, and that's from Washington State. 03:48:20.430 --> 03:48:25.440 Governor Inslee has probably the most eloquent set of solutions. 03:48:25.450 --> 03:48:37.320 And what have you for recovery of of 100% of the materials to get to 100% that there's only 5% of the panel that is hazardous, uh. 03:48:39.780 --> 03:48:40.330 University. 03:48:37.720 --> 03:48:50.300 And for the most part, and the University of Arizona, as I mentioned, is is within 1% in getting all of those chemicals back to a state where they can be reused as if they were fresh out of the ground. 03:48:51.290 --> 03:49:05.200 So the grant that I was I was proposing in in my proposals was was enough money to cover all of that, including building a facility in which to take apart the the glass and the basics. 03:49:05.710 --> 03:49:09.960 And then to sort the remaining 5% into. 03:49:10.710 --> 03:49:20.780 Reusable components and I even took it one step further and in using those components to rebuild solar panels right here in Maine. 03:49:21.920 --> 03:49:24.230 So the money was there. 03:49:24.700 --> 03:49:28.340 The the idea was stolen from Washington state. 03:49:29.550 --> 03:49:31.200 The the only difference? 03:49:31.220 --> 03:49:40.050 Well, and in Washington, states doesn't go into effect until January 31st of 2025 because they needed time to get the manufacturers in line. 03:49:40.680 --> 03:49:56.090 But what they're doing in the meantime, even though they can't recycle them, they're used ones, are being piled up in warehouses until there is a truly affective and complete method for recycling the solar panels and. 03:49:56.100 --> 03:50:03.240 And as crazy as that sounds, that's that's a lot of money because frankly, to store them is cheaper than it is to ship them. 03:50:04.220 --> 03:50:10.770 The last thing I would want to do is solar panels is ship them back to manufacture because the cost of shipping is more than the cost of recycling. 03:50:11.780 --> 03:50:17.990 So so there's an all in one solution out there if you guys want it and I'll be glad to sit down and discuss it. 03:50:18.040 --> 03:50:21.120 I I've expressed that three times, at least in the past. 03:50:21.390 --> 03:50:32.280 Just give me the right person to talk to and I'll talk to him about all the knowledge that's out there, but Washington state and Governor Isley is on the same climate panel as Janet Brunz. 03:50:32.430 --> 03:50:35.870 But yes, as you know, Janet Mills, I'm sorry. 03:50:38.150 --> 03:50:40.160 So is there two of them are talking together? 03:50:40.170 --> 03:50:45.070 He should maybe kick her in the **** and say, look, there's a I've got this program. 03:50:45.080 --> 03:50:49.600 You should adopt it in Maine, but there is a there is a solution out there. 03:50:49.610 --> 03:51:01.890 The trouble is, as as you mentioned, with the hazardous part of it, it's gonna cost $100 to take that panel that that 5% of the panel and convert it back into something that's usable without burning it. 03:51:01.940 --> 03:51:08.030 Now, if you burned it, if you if you know chemistry at all, you know that burning something doesn't get rid of it. 03:51:08.430 --> 03:51:09.680 It just oxidizes it. 03:51:10.510 --> 03:51:24.570 So instead of having a, you know something physically in your hand, it all goes up in the air and you have no control over at that point, but you get to solve for dioxides and the and and all the other poison. 03:51:23.980 --> 03:51:24.790 Not your question. 03:51:24.670 --> 03:51:30.550 Poisonous chemicals go into the air, and that's not a solution. Umm. 03:51:29.770 --> 03:51:32.720 Hey, when I I I can't agree more with you. 03:51:32.730 --> 03:51:38.220 And if you would approached us in that manner, I think the outcome might have been a lot different. 03:51:39.950 --> 03:51:40.370 OK. 03:51:39.520 --> 03:51:42.950 You know, I mean I I I I I appreciate your passion. 03:51:43.300 --> 03:51:44.330 I appreciate it. 03:51:44.340 --> 03:52:00.650 A lot of a lot of things that were in the proposals it, it's just that it's we have to deal with things that are very tangible and we have the most we can give is $40,000 and we can't use that money to leverage other funding. 03:52:01.180 --> 03:52:07.830 We've had a couple in the past that have actually tried to get our grant and then use it to secure funding that they offered as match. 03:52:07.840 --> 03:52:12.650 And so with our little grant program, all we want to do is make a difference. 03:52:12.660 --> 03:52:16.050 And solar panels was exciting to all of us. 03:52:16.790 --> 03:52:17.100 For. 03:52:16.100 --> 03:52:23.660 It's just that we needed to find find a way to work with you and do it in the right way instead of the adversarial route that we ended up following. 03:52:24.640 --> 03:52:25.070 They they. 03:52:27.080 --> 03:52:27.360 Kind of. 03:52:28.490 --> 03:52:28.610 Yes. 03:52:29.000 --> 03:52:29.140 The. 03:52:24.610 --> 03:52:30.860 Since we're going down that we're going down a rabbit hole here and we're missing the point of this meeting. 03:52:31.210 --> 03:52:33.200 So I'm gonna put us. 03:52:37.300 --> 03:52:37.870 I'm gonna. 03:52:38.860 --> 03:52:40.320 I'm gonna beat everybody. 03:52:44.240 --> 03:52:44.390 Like. 03:52:32.190 --> 03:52:45.020 No, I I just wanna say that the I wasn't looking necessarily for the 40,000 from DEP from DEP that the NSF grant, the NSF grant has had was enough to fund the whole program. 03:52:45.350 --> 03:52:49.860 So we didn't need state money that that was just icing on the cake and that's occurring now. 03:52:50.510 --> 03:52:50.680 Right. 03:52:49.870 --> 03:52:53.550 It's around seven of the solar project through NSF is out there right now. 03:52:54.830 --> 03:52:55.360 You know. 03:52:55.430 --> 03:52:56.660 Yeah, I got. 03:52:57.340 --> 03:52:57.590 I got. 03:53:03.310 --> 03:53:03.460 Two. 03:53:04.450 --> 03:53:09.840 Sorry Ken, but we were way off track, but we're off track. 03:53:09.850 --> 03:53:15.730 So, umm cat, you're a presenter, so you can speak. 03:53:16.540 --> 03:53:16.930 Thank you. 03:53:16.940 --> 03:53:20.450 I just didn't wanna buddy in just something back on track. 03:53:20.560 --> 03:53:28.740 I've been advocating for years when I've participated in Rule changes that we need to stop the import of waste from out of state. 03:53:29.910 --> 03:53:44.870 If you know the argument I hear from commercial landfills and read energy and the like is that Mainers do not create enough waste to make their business viable, So what isn't that the point? 03:53:45.790 --> 03:53:48.420 I mean, aren't we supposed to reduce our footprint? 03:53:48.430 --> 03:53:50.150 And now it does not matter. 03:53:50.160 --> 03:54:01.680 You can sit here and talk about all the things that we wanna do to make life better, but the bottom line is, is that companies like Cassella make billions. 03:54:02.040 --> 03:54:07.210 They they topped a billion dollar revenue this year and actually bragged about it. 03:54:07.680 --> 03:54:10.730 And they do it by bringing in out-of-state waste. 03:54:11.220 --> 03:54:25.470 I could send you a history of Juniper Ridge Landfill of how it was a a scheme basically between Georgia Pacific and Cassella, and that is something that now we're having to deal with. 03:54:25.480 --> 03:54:30.770 I think they're contract Casella's contract with Juniper Ridge is another 10 years. 03:54:30.780 --> 03:54:32.250 Jackie could probably correct me on that. 03:54:32.260 --> 03:54:36.750 She might know more than I do, but but they're filling up. 03:54:36.760 --> 03:54:39.170 Juniper Ridge as fast as possible. 03:54:39.370 --> 03:54:57.110 When the bill passed last year into law about not allowing waste to come into Lewiston and then automatically became main waste, and then it was OK to dump it on Juniper Ridge because it was main waste, we had to change the definitions about what is actually originated in Maine. 03:54:57.600 --> 03:55:10.990 And I think there's enough evidence now with the invasive species, and I think the Commerce Clause won't hold water because we've already banned firewood and baitfish from coming into the state because of the potential hazard they cause. 03:55:11.260 --> 03:55:15.010 And yet we know the problems that imported waste comes. 03:55:15.020 --> 03:55:18.180 This is why Massachusetts banned it. 03:55:18.450 --> 03:55:21.520 Landfills, you know, in their state. 03:55:21.650 --> 03:55:25.920 So they pushed it off on the main and we're just catching up with the whole problem. 03:55:26.170 --> 03:55:31.940 But I strongly feel that if we could just stop what it even just a moratorium on it. 03:55:35.920 --> 03:55:36.090 That's. 03:55:31.950 --> 03:55:42.580 To not allow any out-of-state waste to come in and even waste from southern Maine and any quarantine area to come up to Juniper Ridge that would give us a pause and allow us to catch our breath. 03:55:42.670 --> 03:55:48.070 And instead of putting out fires, we could actually make some progress. 03:55:48.580 --> 03:55:50.380 And what would be best practice? 03:55:51.820 --> 03:55:52.160 Thank you. 03:55:54.300 --> 03:55:54.720 Thank you. 03:55:59.030 --> 03:56:00.300 You wanna go in this conversation? 03:56:00.310 --> 03:56:08.340 Then it's on our list I and get such a small group of people now left. 03:56:09.890 --> 03:56:11.820 It's maybe we could just hit repair. 03:56:12.390 --> 03:56:15.690 Not sure you haven't talked about repair? 03:56:18.690 --> 03:56:23.920 Basically wondering, uh, people have good repair options in their area. 03:56:23.930 --> 03:56:28.530 For what items are there items that you'd like to be able to repair, but can't? 03:56:29.620 --> 03:56:33.940 Why can't you and any ideas on how we might promote repair? 03:56:35.290 --> 03:56:37.080 Anyone has thoughts or any of those things? 03:56:43.290 --> 03:56:50.620 Could make disposable batteries like tool batteries and such when they become unchargeable. 03:56:50.630 --> 03:56:54.100 Now what are they, like a A1 off battery? 03:56:54.450 --> 03:56:58.840 And perhaps there could be a program for refurbishment. 03:56:58.850 --> 03:56:59.680 You can do it. 03:56:59.690 --> 03:57:08.000 I mean, there are private entities that do that, but mostly contractors and builders don't have the time to send something out for refurbishment. 03:57:08.070 --> 03:57:14.830 But refurbishing electronics and batteries will, for right now, you were talking about solar panels. 03:57:14.840 --> 03:57:18.180 You know the law of unintended consequences. 03:57:18.190 --> 03:57:32.670 You know, solar panels, free electricity, but now Versant and CMP are penalizing people who have solar panels on their home, and they're accusing solar as being one of the reasons why they're raising rates. 03:57:33.120 --> 03:57:43.150 So I think that along with the right to repair that we don't have to go to the place where we bought our car, we can get it worked on by somebody else and it doesn't void the warranty. 03:57:43.280 --> 03:57:59.270 And if we had a ways of if we mandated that each tool has to be refurbished by the manufacturer, then, or at least be able to send your batteries in and get, I don't know, a coupon, you know, for towards a new battery. 03:57:59.720 --> 03:58:07.170 Instead, people are just throwing them in the trash and they're causing they cause the perk plant to shut down for 30 days last spring. 03:58:07.300 --> 03:58:17.330 You know, because there was a lithium battery that caught on fire and it burned part of their facility and now perk because of competition between MRC and their contentious relationship. 03:58:17.340 --> 03:58:22.100 And I actually just recently learned much about their history between each other. 03:58:23.210 --> 03:58:33.990 They have brought this area to its knees in waste management and now all we have left is Cassella and Juniper Ridge in this area and Juniper Ridge is unstable. 03:58:34.000 --> 03:58:44.190 The DEP says they may never know the reason why the fire started and toxic smoke and ash went as far as it went down and thank God it wasn't blowing this way. 03:58:44.200 --> 03:58:51.230 And I know that's a terrible thing to say, but I didn't even know about the fire because it was like one or two news articles and. 03:58:51.550 --> 03:59:06.160 And so I think that that monopolies like Casella, who come into our state with the intention of only making money, do not serve the public benefit and shouldn't be permitted. 03:59:06.680 --> 03:59:12.420 I think that we should switch to a nonprofit system, much like what Eco main does. 03:59:12.750 --> 03:59:14.100 The MRC right now. 03:59:14.230 --> 03:59:14.860 The meeting. 03:59:14.870 --> 03:59:16.750 I'm listening to them talk about all these. 03:59:17.250 --> 03:59:19.340 You know, they won't admit what they're going to do. 03:59:19.350 --> 03:59:21.560 They want to use advanced recycling takings. 03:59:21.570 --> 03:59:21.950 Jackie. 03:59:22.050 --> 03:59:32.740 I've talked about this that include heat and chemicals and water and and now they were saying they were hooked up to the sewer line for Hamden and I'm thinking. 03:59:32.750 --> 03:59:39.430 So is that where you're discharge is going into the wastewater treatment plant and where does that go? 03:59:39.520 --> 03:59:47.310 Jennifer Ridge, so it seems like money has to be taken out of the equation. 03:59:47.580 --> 03:59:53.610 You know, we have to consider this a public service rather than a for profit enterprise. 03:59:53.800 --> 04:00:06.830 And I think those two things getting rid of imported trash and getting getting commercial commercialization or out of the waste stream, that would be a good elimination to get out of the waste stream actually. 04:00:07.140 --> 04:00:18.620 So I just thought I'd throw that in because I've been advocating for blocking imported trash into the state now for 10 years, and it seems as if somebody along the food chain either is unwilling. 04:00:18.630 --> 04:00:21.910 Maybe Casella contributes to their campaigns. 04:00:21.960 --> 04:00:23.780 Maybe they pay a lot in taxes. 04:00:23.790 --> 04:00:40.580 Maybe we're just now so held hostage by them that we don't have any alternatives and that's why I feel that a distributed waste system spread out and even in urban areas would be more effective than trying to put all of our eggs in one basket. 04:00:42.830 --> 04:00:43.210 Thank you. 04:00:44.010 --> 04:00:44.390 Thank you. 04:00:48.130 --> 04:00:59.620 I seem to be going over specific issues that they aren't necessarily on our agenda at this point, and I'm wondering if this is a good time. 04:01:01.990 --> 04:01:02.680 Bowels. 04:01:05.110 --> 04:01:05.460 Sweetheart. 04:01:02.210 --> 04:01:13.240 Uh, excuse me if I could just respond to the last question that was posed about how do we do something? 04:01:13.850 --> 04:01:22.870 And we were talking about refurbishing and I I have to concur with a lot of what cat has just presented. 04:01:23.950 --> 04:01:49.360 I think we have to acknowledge the fact that, OK, this to make these various pieces work, whatever we identify them as, it's a community effort at the root, but there has to be a certain economies of scale involved in order to make them viable. 04:01:51.430 --> 04:02:16.440 So I would see it as an effort, perhaps well spent if the department were to begin to think in terms of how could the state be sectioned up, and regions where the various pieces of waste management could occur? 04:02:17.810 --> 04:02:20.040 And a sustainable fashion. 04:02:22.010 --> 04:02:30.340 And how do we get the resources to provide the infrastructure for those various pieces to function? 04:02:32.990 --> 04:02:35.640 Umm and yeah, really. 04:02:35.810 --> 04:02:46.710 Look at how can we avoid the big four profit control over what happens and the way it happens? 04:02:47.260 --> 04:02:59.810 Because that is just going to work counter to our efforts, which I think I'm hearing is we want solutions, smart solutions. 04:03:00.880 --> 04:03:02.560 We care about our state. 04:03:03.580 --> 04:03:13.790 We want to preserve what is valuable about our state, starting with public health and the environment ohm. 04:03:15.780 --> 04:03:21.970 So maybe we need to take the problem and break it down on a regional level. 04:03:22.280 --> 04:03:32.320 See is there a way to build those systems within a region to get to where we are sort of saying we want to go. 04:03:37.450 --> 04:03:45.770 And I think the add to that, Jackie, Umm, we, the members of the MRC group, the community members are not. 04:03:45.830 --> 04:03:49.680 I asked this question specifically if Karen and she answered it with one word. 04:03:49.690 --> 04:03:51.660 No, and that was. 04:03:51.710 --> 04:03:53.040 Are you going to allow? 04:03:53.290 --> 04:04:02.940 Since you haven't been servicing these communities for several years, are you going to allow communities to break their contract with you and go with another provider? 04:04:03.350 --> 04:04:04.380 And she said no. 04:04:04.690 --> 04:04:11.800 So I think that these locked in contracts with these big outfits is detrimental to getting anything. 04:04:12.400 --> 04:04:14.020 Uh, yeah. 04:04:14.060 --> 04:04:20.530 To progress in any way because they're looking again like we said at at the money and the money aspect. 04:04:20.600 --> 04:04:28.210 So I think there should be something that says in the rules that if a if a community is not being well served. 04:04:28.380 --> 04:04:36.850 In other words, if the waste management services that they contracted with are not performing up to what they said they were going to do that. 04:04:36.860 --> 04:05:22.000 They could be allowed to be released from that contract and go with another service it it seems like it's it takes everyone here that I've listened to today seems to have a specific specialty in their area like Mark is in, in, in composting and and recycling and Mark Draper is in Aroostook County waste and everyone's it does take that it takes kind of like a specialization in order to understand these issues in depth unless you're like Jackie and me, you know who have time to kill and we stick our noses and things probably where we shouldn't, but still it does take community activists that will bring these things to the front. 04:05:22.010 --> 04:05:32.900 And it behooves the Department of Environmental Protection to to listen to these people and get more people on committees that actually live in the areas that your legislating on. 04:05:33.330 --> 04:05:36.450 I don't see too many farmers on these committees. 04:05:36.460 --> 04:05:42.800 I don't see too many loggers on these exception of Troy Jackson, and he does advocate for loggers. 04:05:43.210 --> 04:05:47.840 Perhaps a a panel of volunteer panel? 04:05:48.040 --> 04:05:52.380 Or maybe a stipend to cover costs, you know expenses or something like that. 04:05:52.470 --> 04:06:14.620 But panels in each region like I think this is an idea that I've I've batted around with Jackie and the don't waste me people is that we need to get money out of the waste, but we also need to have collectives or cooperatives between communities because one town isn't going to have enough waste to make it profitable for them to have their own waste management service just for exclusively for that town. 04:06:14.830 --> 04:06:23.100 But if you create cooperatives and you allow them to be dynamic as been has been said in this meeting today, that everything evolves. 04:06:23.350 --> 04:06:31.400 So say all of a sudden press Kyle or Ashland, you know, starts getting a housing boom or an influx of people. 04:06:31.610 --> 04:06:34.020 So there needs all of a sudden escalate. 04:06:34.130 --> 04:06:42.850 They should be allowed to break off or or fragment into different cooperatives and I think the contracts between. 04:06:43.360 --> 04:06:57.940 I don't understand why the member communities of the MRC are still with them, you know, and the only answer I can think of is that they're locked into contracts if they can't get out of and they can't afford the legal help to break them. 04:06:58.360 --> 04:07:23.760 So maybe that's something that should change in the waste management rules as that if if a service is not performing for whatever reason, maintenance shut down or bypass, which is one of my favorite reasons, uh, that the member Community of the coop or a member of the service should be allowed without penalty to leave. 04:07:27.160 --> 04:07:28.470 After all, they are consumers. 04:07:31.850 --> 04:07:33.980 I can't say I disagree. 04:07:34.250 --> 04:07:37.700 I mean, you know, I I want that from any of my personal vendors. 04:07:37.810 --> 04:07:40.070 If you don't perform for me, I'd wanna be able to leave. 04:07:41.390 --> 04:07:46.370 Umm, but that's outside of our billing right here. 04:07:47.860 --> 04:07:48.400 Ohh too bad. 04:07:47.100 --> 04:08:17.520 Umm now and the other thing that I'd like to point out and and I'm thinking I'm listening to you guys talk about one end of the the solid waste issue and honestly, I I think about the other end, what we gotta get our manufacturers to properly manufacture things so they can be properly disassembled and recovered recycling we should be using materials that can be reused and so forth. 04:08:18.950 --> 04:08:21.770 You're not going to get that at the bottom of the waste stream. 04:08:21.780 --> 04:08:29.240 You're gonna get that before it becomes waste, and that comes down to our choices when we buy stuff, we need to buy smarter. 04:08:30.050 --> 04:08:30.410 Umm. 04:08:31.720 --> 04:08:39.730 And to do that and make a difference, we need to create an ethic, statewide and environmental ethic. 04:08:39.740 --> 04:08:55.810 I don't awareness and that's an educational program I'd really like to discuss because if if everybody was aware of the impacts of their own personal purchases and so forth, umm, we might be able to make a difference. 04:08:56.760 --> 04:09:00.500 Umm, we we can wag that dog. 04:09:04.650 --> 04:09:14.230 Well, California again ban certain products from being bought online for their state lawn mowers. 04:09:19.370 --> 04:09:19.530 Yeah. 04:09:14.600 --> 04:09:20.170 Weed Whackers gas operated, they're going almost completely electrical now. 04:09:20.180 --> 04:09:23.010 I am not a big advocate of electric cars, OK? 04:09:23.020 --> 04:09:25.470 Because you're talking about a windmill. 04:09:25.920 --> 04:09:30.630 Paddles or blades and and solar panels. 04:09:30.880 --> 04:09:40.490 I think the next big thing problem is going to be that the cars that run on batteries are gonna start seeing that they can't recharge their batteries. 04:09:40.650 --> 04:09:48.580 You know, it's not a big deal up here because most people don't trust electric cars when you're temperature gets down. 04:09:48.590 --> 04:09:53.320 And I believe that the charging rate drastically slows down when the weather gets cold. 04:09:53.330 --> 04:10:06.790 So I don't think you're gonna see a revolution of electric cars up here in the north, but California, when you buy something at Home Depot, it's gonna say right on the thing that where you purchase it says this cannot be delivered to your state. 04:10:07.910 --> 04:10:09.880 And that is also part of me. 04:10:09.890 --> 04:10:18.640 I've seen it for Maine because I tried to buy some fertilizer that I used to use in California, which is organic by the way, and they wouldn't ship it to me. 04:10:19.130 --> 04:10:20.710 So I couldn't get it. 04:10:20.750 --> 04:10:27.540 I actually had to go to a a a manufacturer or not a manufacturer, but a local distributor in California which shipped it to me. 04:10:27.940 --> 04:10:56.020 So that is something that could coincide with the product, the manufacturer product thing where it over packaging or not being able to be repaired or not or having a battery that makes the tool obsolete or when they upgrade something like an iPhone or something, all of a sudden the programs or things that you've purchased for technology are not adaptable because the cables don't match up. 04:10:56.030 --> 04:11:19.610 You know, these are things that manufacturers do that are proprietary and I think there should be a penalty for proprietary items if we're going to go to the trouble of penalizing getting manufacturers for excessive packaging that perhaps we could add the caveat of having them be reusable to follow our hierarchy. 04:11:19.680 --> 04:11:21.310 You know, can this be repaired? 04:11:21.320 --> 04:11:27.150 OK, if it isn't, then here's a surcharge and that surcharge goes into a fund which helps process that. 04:11:27.300 --> 04:11:44.090 When it becomes part of the waste stream, so just like we did with the bottles I left, I went to California in the 70s when I left, the roads were littered with cans and bottles, and when I came back for visits and stuff, I noticed that all of a sudden the roadways are clean. 04:11:44.200 --> 04:11:47.560 There's always somebody out there picking up the bottles and cans for that nickel. 04:11:47.920 --> 04:11:50.460 And so I think that the reverse could be true. 04:11:50.640 --> 04:11:52.260 I and and what happens to the? 04:11:52.270 --> 04:11:53.580 Do I get this question all the time? 04:11:53.590 --> 04:11:54.970 Maybe you guys can answer it. 04:11:55.180 --> 04:12:06.270 What happens to the deposit we put on our refrigerators and appliances that we pay at the store and then when we go to to dump them or get rid of them, we get charged another fee? 04:12:06.610 --> 04:12:09.410 What happened to the fee that we got charged in the beginning? 04:12:10.550 --> 04:12:12.350 Does anyone know the answer to that question? 04:12:16.690 --> 04:12:17.210 OK. 04:12:21.940 --> 04:12:22.550 Oh really? 04:12:18.140 --> 04:12:31.250 Or I I'm aware of a tire fee that a lot of people upset about because it goes to clean up old tire dumps and doesn't cover your tire when you then bring it back, right? 04:12:34.010 --> 04:12:35.270 The you know? 04:12:35.630 --> 04:12:36.320 Probably. 04:12:36.690 --> 04:12:48.380 Perhaps some of those fees are mishandled in a way I I ran a solid waste transfer stations for 28 years and I used to get beat daily about that. 04:12:48.550 --> 04:12:49.100 What do you mean? 04:12:49.110 --> 04:12:50.480 I paid for this when I bought it. 04:12:50.490 --> 04:12:52.400 Well, we don't see a sense of that. 04:12:52.410 --> 04:12:55.140 It doesn't make it down to the municipal level. 04:12:55.230 --> 04:13:09.770 It might help run a an agency, or it might deal specifically with, for example, the tires that were huge tire dumps, which were horrible hazards that many have been cleaned up. 04:13:09.820 --> 04:13:14.380 I don't know if all of them cleaned up yet, so that's what that sort of thing has been going towards us. 04:13:15.560 --> 04:13:19.210 Umm, that's that's what legislation curator was. 04:13:19.460 --> 04:13:21.540 But yes, this legislation. 04:13:20.560 --> 04:13:23.960 I'm I'm wondering if I could just jump in here for a minute. 04:13:25.090 --> 04:13:28.670 I this conversation has taken an evolution. 04:13:29.960 --> 04:13:38.960 I'm looking at your reduce reuse recycle triangle here, and I'd like to add at the top before reduce. 04:13:38.970 --> 04:13:49.220 Rethink because I think that's exactly what's occurring here, and the idea that how do we get people to participate? 04:13:50.210 --> 04:14:12.770 And I'm and a more beneficial way, and I'm going to bring up the topic of justice around that because we have been able to ship off the undesirable parts of what we do as a society to places less able to protect themselves against harmful impacts. 04:14:13.810 --> 04:14:22.550 So we've we've kind of created a monster that some people think don't have to think about what they do and other people are living. 04:14:22.560 --> 04:14:30.690 The reality of those choices being neighbor to a landfill or live under the smokestack of an incinerator. 04:14:30.700 --> 04:14:32.840 And you'll come to understand that a little better. 04:14:34.470 --> 04:14:40.410 So I think we have to again we're getting we have to get back to what is honest. 04:14:41.550 --> 04:14:49.000 They were going to be benefits and they are going to be burdens around any choices we make relative to how we manage our waste. 04:14:49.370 --> 04:15:06.730 But we need a goal of making those benefits and burdens a little more equalized across the population, because that would perhaps be some incentive to start doing things in a better way. 04:15:08.620 --> 04:15:14.820 Ohm because not everybody wants to live next to a landfill or under a incinerator smokestack. 04:15:15.360 --> 04:15:17.450 So you might want to think about what you're doing. 04:15:18.650 --> 04:15:23.750 Umm, in terms of what you create that that seems to be the way we wanna handle. 04:15:25.230 --> 04:15:27.230 Umm so. 04:15:29.300 --> 04:15:44.590 Education is going to involve helping people to understand that their choices have an impact, and even though they might not be living up close and personal to those impacts, those impacts are happening. 04:15:45.180 --> 04:15:51.410 Maine is taking some really important steps with the extended producer responsibility effort. 04:15:51.700 --> 04:16:26.040 Even our bottle Bill efforts has its good points and until we start shifting the all the costs that get accrued around this whole topic off the consumer and taxpayer ended things and get it back on the side of the equation where all these things are produced in the beginning and making the producers of these things more accountable for the cost of what they produce other than just what they get, the charge. 04:16:27.000 --> 04:16:41.820 Uh, again, rethink the paradigm has to shift substantially to get to a better place, and we don't do ourselves any favors by pretending that doesn't have to happen. 04:16:42.690 --> 04:16:43.170 Umm. 04:16:44.310 --> 04:16:48.310 Let's let's face it, we're facing a real serious disease here. 04:16:49.350 --> 04:17:01.870 I slapping a few band AIDS and other bandages on it is not going to get the job done and I think there are a lot of people who would like to do the right thing. 04:17:04.020 --> 04:17:15.340 We just need to commit our resources and efforts and just keep having these hard conversations, umm, and figuring out what our next steps are. 04:17:23.400 --> 04:17:23.770 Deputy. 04:17:25.790 --> 04:17:30.420 I think I think you've nicely wrapped up wrapped up Jackie. 04:17:30.430 --> 04:17:32.810 You know, the idea is that well said. 04:17:35.230 --> 04:17:37.090 Marking has something to add? 04:17:38.010 --> 04:17:39.830 Did I mean you, mark, are you muted? 04:17:40.580 --> 04:17:41.500 I think you made it. 04:17:41.620 --> 04:17:42.550 I think they're muted. 04:17:42.560 --> 04:17:42.930 You. 04:17:42.980 --> 04:17:44.840 Sorry, man, the. 04:17:43.160 --> 04:17:45.510 I I have a question for Jack. 04:17:45.520 --> 04:17:45.970 Jackie. 04:17:45.980 --> 04:17:47.010 Hey, Jackie. 04:17:47.020 --> 04:17:51.950 I I love all that you've been saying and I just wanna know two things. 04:17:51.960 --> 04:17:53.420 What community are you from? 04:17:54.840 --> 04:17:55.020 Well. 04:17:55.820 --> 04:18:16.140 Well, I currently reside in Waterboro where I've been retired since 2010 and that OK, this is Full disclosure, I'm a native granite stater for 30 years I have been what I refer to myself as an environmental, health and justice advocate. 04:18:17.250 --> 04:18:41.720 Those efforts have focused on waste handling policy back in New Hampshire, I lived under the smokestack of a waste to energy incinerator on my Western border, I had the leaking ash landfill for that incinerator, threatening a source of my communities drinking water supply. 04:18:42.210 --> 04:18:52.990 I also have spent most of my life dealing with a disease directly associated with dioxin, which a point along the way. 04:18:53.000 --> 04:19:07.620 I discovered that incineration and dioxin go hand in hand, so it prompted me to action umm and cat kind of referred to. 04:19:07.710 --> 04:19:19.220 I have a spare time and that's why I do this, but that's not truly why I'm involved is because I've done a great deal of research. 04:19:19.910 --> 04:19:21.900 I've also had a lived experience. 04:19:26.910 --> 04:19:27.350 That's all. 04:19:23.010 --> 04:19:35.520 Ah, that was a real teacher, and I am just very serious about what needs to happen in our world. 04:19:35.600 --> 04:19:41.740 I have children, grandchildren and great grandchildren who I know are impacted. 04:19:41.750 --> 04:19:53.430 And negative ways by the choices we are making and I've just kind of determined that I'm gonna spend whatever years I have left, which I'm sure there are people hoping they're not many. 04:20:03.690 --> 04:20:03.910 I don't. 04:19:54.540 --> 04:20:05.390 But I would like to be a Burr under the saddle and continue to help us all do better around this. 04:20:06.700 --> 04:20:21.320 Well my my question for you is that when I get my community based packet together for helping communities set up a compose operation, would you be willing to take a look at it and maybe we could talk about something with Waterboro. 04:20:22.820 --> 04:20:39.760 I would love to and I did respond to a survey that our town put out where they were sort of gauging what the interest might be in an organics diversion program for the community. 04:20:39.770 --> 04:20:42.470 We are trashed. 04:20:42.480 --> 04:20:43.790 Ends up at Eco main. 04:20:44.710 --> 04:20:45.280 Umm. 04:20:45.690 --> 04:20:46.560 And I would. 04:20:46.710 --> 04:21:19.310 I would love to weigh in on anything that you have that you would want to present, but I have to be up front and acknowledge the fact that my physical world is very small because of my own health and care of my husband at this point and my efforts are pretty much limited to electronic versions of things and to be up and about somewhere actually doing something. 04:21:19.660 --> 04:21:27.310 In a, you know, in a physical capacity, I'm very limited, but I certainly can make phone calls and that sort of thing. 04:21:27.420 --> 04:21:35.090 So you contact me and we'll see if there's any way I can be of assistance. 04:21:35.100 --> 04:21:38.680 And I would be more than happy to do that if possible. 04:21:39.630 --> 04:21:40.060 All right. 04:21:40.070 --> 04:21:40.900 I'll be reaching out. 04:21:40.910 --> 04:21:41.730 Thank you very much. 04:21:43.070 --> 04:21:43.710 Thank you. 04:21:45.510 --> 04:21:56.000 We very much appreciate all the time that all of you put into this and you know it's our job to be here and you guys could all take in time out of your day to be here. 04:21:56.090 --> 04:21:58.950 And we wanna really thank you for that. 04:22:00.160 --> 04:22:03.060 Umm, I believe. 04:22:03.470 --> 04:22:11.230 Rob, did you have anything to say about next steps on this or Brian, no, you're you're welcome to do comments. 04:22:11.240 --> 04:22:24.880 Pretty comments as well till September the 1st and our next meeting will be held in University of Maine and Machias on Thursday of next week on the 29th. 04:22:25.770 --> 04:22:31.690 So if you want to register for that one as well, either virtually or in the person, happy to have you there. 04:22:33.670 --> 04:22:35.460 The thank you all for your time. 04:22:33.720 --> 04:22:37.040 Brian and thank you. 04:22:37.520 --> 04:22:38.310 Yes, thank you. 04:22:38.320 --> 04:22:49.590 I I've actually gotten several emails from other don't waste me people saying they watch the MRC meeting and they tuned into this one and they're they're very optimistic. 04:22:51.130 --> 04:22:51.430 Good. 04:22:49.600 --> 04:22:54.070 Let's put it that way about the direction that we're heading in. 04:22:54.420 --> 04:23:08.810 I think intimate settings like this where everyone left, you know, and we're done with the anecdotal evidence and stuff, and now we just really have to have serious conversations with people and, you know, Jackie and I are not unique. 04:23:09.600 --> 04:23:16.330 There are many people who are retired or disabled or involved with their communities who could. 04:23:16.400 --> 04:23:22.580 Who could you could enlist to help you promote areas you know their own local areas? 04:23:25.630 --> 04:23:26.170 Good job. 04:23:22.920 --> 04:23:34.340 I have people all the time that get irritated with because if I have them, if I have them for 5 minutes, I talk about Juniper Ridge and and how we can better, you know, improve the area. 04:23:35.350 --> 04:23:44.560 So there are people out there if you just reach out and you know sometimes like I said, they don't have the Internet connection that they need to do this. 04:23:45.630 --> 04:23:46.160 The. 04:23:44.570 --> 04:23:50.090 But I they're willing to participate, and poor Ed Spencer. 04:23:55.940 --> 04:23:56.170 Ever. 04:23:50.100 --> 04:23:56.770 Jeez, he's been fighting this fight with Juniper Ridge and and Cassella for decades. 04:23:56.940 --> 04:24:00.770 And he spends his own money to go to Augusta and his own time. 04:24:00.780 --> 04:24:04.530 He was at the MRC meeting today and he asked when this one started and I said 2:00. 04:24:04.540 --> 04:24:04.820 O'clock. 04:24:04.830 --> 04:24:06.770 He goes, damn it, I said. 04:24:06.780 --> 04:24:09.530 Well, you can watch it on the rerun, you know? 04:24:09.540 --> 04:24:12.160 And I said, I'm gonna go to each meeting remotely. 04:24:12.240 --> 04:24:17.260 So you can sign up for as many as you want and you now you can always put in your two cents. 04:24:20.710 --> 04:24:20.910 That's. 04:24:17.510 --> 04:24:22.020 Well, I appreciate you letting me chat or today I know I can be annoying. 04:24:22.170 --> 04:24:23.870 And please don't shoot me. 04:24:25.710 --> 04:24:26.080 Thank you. 04:24:26.760 --> 04:24:29.320 So so can I. 04:24:26.280 --> 04:24:29.630 Can't see you well there for profit. 04:24:29.390 --> 04:24:30.680 I've just pipe in. 04:24:30.690 --> 04:24:47.100 One thing we did have a dedicated just a small web page on the departments web page that will have links to all register for all the upcoming meetings as well as as we get the the. 04:24:48.490 --> 04:24:53.840 Recordings for the meetings available and any and any comments we receive. 04:24:53.850 --> 04:25:14.310 We will see any comments that we receive written through the web, the email address we will make available as well through that link on that web page and we'll send the actual address out to the people who've responded to be on our email. 04:25:15.280 --> 04:25:18.960 Serve list in the next couple of days. 04:25:20.300 --> 04:25:21.330 Thank you for doing that. 04:25:21.340 --> 04:25:23.890 I actually sent Mr Meador. 04:25:26.150 --> 04:25:26.400 The door. 04:25:27.030 --> 04:25:27.220 That. 04:25:23.980 --> 04:25:29.660 Is it Medora or Midori an email about that asking him where the page was? 04:25:29.670 --> 04:25:37.460 Where people instead of just going through the alerts and and now all of a sudden I found it and I went ohh wow, I didn't see that before. 04:25:38.220 --> 04:25:44.410 Yeah, it it literally we've we've been a bit behind the 8 ball and getting some of the planning done on this. 04:25:44.420 --> 04:25:47.340 But yeah, that literally just went Live Today, so. 04:25:47.890 --> 04:25:48.700 Thank you for doing that. 04:25:49.280 --> 04:25:49.500 Sure. 04:25:50.270 --> 04:25:51.810 Thanks everybody. Bye. 04:25:52.540 --> 04:25:55.260 Be sure to end the recording before you end the meeting. 04:25:55.880 --> 04:25:56.020 Yes. 04:25:55.760 --> 04:25:56.270 Got it. 04:25:57.170 --> 04:25:57.510 OK. 04:25:56.280 --> 04:25:57.650 This type of light open. 04:25:57.660 --> 04:25:59.260 I'm really do that, you know. 04:26:00.250 --> 04:26:01.460 Thank God for text support. 04:26:03.370 --> 04:26:04.430 Good to see you guys. 04:26:05.060 --> 04:26:05.560 Hi everyone. 04:26:05.480 --> 04:26:05.690 Bye. 04:26:05.470 --> 04:26:05.910 Thank you. 04:26:03.130 --> 04:26:06.570 Thank you, Joanna. Why? 04:26:10.280 --> 04:26:10.980 Check for you. 04:26:14.500 --> 04:26:17.180 Yet I I missed you.